As long as your frost heave conforms to verifiability guidelines by being either: a) signposted (possibly) b) fenced off, with a sign (no, because it's in the road) c) a government-declared hazardous area (no)
I'm concerned that this hazard tagging proposal will encourage subjective tagging over what constitutes a 'hazard'. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:49 PM Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonew...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd think that frost heaves (which are seasonal and conditions-based) > versus permanent bumps are different. If there aren't objections, I'd > propose both a hazard=bump (which has a few trace uses) and a new value > hazard=frost_heave to cover frost heaves specifically. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:37 PM Adam Franco <adamfra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> *hazard=frost_heave, hazard=bump?* >> >> One of the common road hazards I encounter and would like to tag are >> large frost heaves that occur at consistent locations every year. A few >> roads in my region like VT-17 and NY-8 have poor roadbeds and get damaged >> by frost heaves the first winter after repaving. These roads often have >> several hundred yards of nice smooth and fresh pavement, then 2"-8" frost >> heaves with cracks that reappear in the same places year after year. >> >> Some examples: >> >> - VT-17: section A >> <https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/Nisd3iuj_bCdnuSwVBh5zA>, section B >> <https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/O-kqJL5OPJI-_RVor2rv4A> (with >> "BUMP" sign), section C >> <https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/MzW49dK2S78l2ewhhpg5PQ> >> - NY-8: section A >> >> <https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5567706,-74.120767,3a,75y,60.66h,62.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8wGqO4YlGLPO2JfLpTG7ug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656>, >> section B >> >> <https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5548342,-74.1233648,3a,75y,41.82h,60.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWntAQT_Hwb2BVYwM5shNRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656> >> >> This has been previously mentioned in an OSMUS Slack thread >> <https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C2VJAJCS0/p1584560161247300> in regard >> to smoothness=*, but tagging particularly bad (and often permanent) >> heaves may be preferable as other sections of the roadway may be smooth and >> freshly paved. >> >> Signage on these tends to be inconsistent, often using phrasing like >> "BUMP", "CAUTION: FROST HEAVE", "FROST HEAVE AHEAD", or other similar >> phrases. In some locations the signs are permanently mounted, while other >> locations get folding signage. As these are point features with varying >> placement of signage, I would suggest mapping them as nodes on a roadway at >> the heave position with something like hazard=frost_heave. >> Alternatively, hazard=bump may be applicable to other situations >> worldwide for dangerous bumps caused by something other than freeze/thaw >> cycles. >> >> Best, >> Adam >> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:27 AM Brian M. Sperlongano < >> zelonew...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Comment is requested on the proposal "hazard", which describes hazardous >>> or dangerous features. This tagging was first proposed in 2007, and I have >>> adopted the proposal with permission from the original author. Thanks to >>> the various folks that assisted in the development of this proposal prior >>> to this RFC. >>> >>> The key "hazard" has achieved over 28,000 usages, and it is proposed to >>> formalize usage of the most popular values of this key while deprecating >>> less-popular synonyms. In addition, this proposes to deprecate >>> protect_class=16 in favor of the hazard key. >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hazard >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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