Hello, I want to give you an example of how I described this feature (inclined elevator) in my town..
First of all a master relation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433645 Then 2 relations: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433643 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433644 Please note that bicycle=yes at relation level. Finally the way itself: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/358333577 In my opinion it's important to have a relation for this kind of features (specially for access tags). Please let me know what you think. Francesco Il sab 5 dic 2020, 01:44 Joseph Eisenberg <[email protected]> ha scritto: > I agree that the indoor or semi-indoor inclined elevators, which are fully > enclosed and look completely similar to a vertical elevator, should be > tagged as highway=elevator. > > Once they are outdoors and there are visible tracks it gets ambiguous. > > Since the Montmarte "funicular" is tagged as railway=funicular even though > the pairs cars are now no longer connected to one cable, I think we can > edit the Tag:railway=funicular page to mention that the tag is also used > for similar cable-driven inclined railways which are not technically > funiculars, but looks the same to the non-expert. > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:30 PM Guillaume Chauvat <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Sorry for spamming. >> >> I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a >> funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators, >> like this one: >> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html >> . It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have been >> inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But maybe >> others disagree... >> >> Guillaume >> >> On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also >>> known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a >>> cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and >>> down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing >>> each other.” >>> >>> However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly >>> seen in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” >>> - and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly >>> run on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined >>> elevators already. >>> >> >> Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in Paris, >> which was historically a true funicular but is now technically a pair of >> inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578 >> >> The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me a >> technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, are >> named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they are on >> one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up >> and down steeply sloped rails. >> >> I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they >> may resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like >> railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those interested >> in the technical details on how the steep-slope-railway-thing works. >> >> -Clay >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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