capacity:coach depends entirely on the length/ size of the vehicle.
This is the one that started the conversation:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/608428074 If you look at the
mapillary, there is a left arrow for car parking and a right arrow for
"bus park".
This one is closer to home: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1180680774
The seasonality is marked on the road, as far as I recall.
I would also think that public transport have depots (landuse=depot?)
for off-duty parking.
As far as I can ascertain, in Ireland "bus" and "coach" are both used
for tourist busses, posher people tend to use "coach", methinks. But I'm
not a native speaker. Tourists take public transport, too, anyway.
Anne
On 09/06/2023 17:19, Greg Troxel wrote:
Colin Smale <[email protected]> writes:
UK native here...
Looking at the vehicles, a bus would be more spartan, set up for fare
collection, doors for speedy un/loading etc whereas a coach would
almost always have only a single door (although some have more), be
more luxurious, be equipped with seat belts etc. In bus-lover-land
there are even so-called "Dual Purpose" vehicles which are in between
being a bus and a coach.
Looking at the usage of the vehicles, a bus would typically be used on
scheduled services with a predefined timetable and (mostly) predefined
stops, whereas a coach would often be used on "private hire"
arrangements for one-off journeys.
Having said that, there are many scheduled long-distance (city to
city) services using coaches, and buses can also be used for private
hire. There is also a grey area of express services with multiple
stops along a predetermined route (I am thinking of the old Green Line
network for example).
From the perspective of traffic law, a "Bus Lane" may be restricted to
scheduled services by a licensed operator. Even empty buses returning
to the depot may not be allowed (as it is not on "active
service"). Other bus lanes might also allow private hire vehicles, it
depends on the specific legislation.
My main point being that the way the vehicle is constructed may not be
enough to determine whether it can use a bus lane or use a coach
parking area - the circumstances of its use may also be significant.
Thanks. That is complicated, and it's interesting how close the
bus/coach distinction is to US usage.
For this case, I think Anne might be asking about a parking lot
(carpark) where buses/coaches can park, such as at a tourist attraction
type place, where there is either a lot for cars and one for buses, or
one with sections.
I would expect the fare/scheduled/etc. city buses would not park out in
the world, and there would be some sort of depot that is in an
industrial area, for only the buses belonging to that agency.
so to me it sounds like amenity=coach_parking or capacity:coach is
reasonable, leaving the access rules fuzzy (but no fuzzier than they
are in general)
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