On 10/06/2023 20:57, Greg Troxel wrote:
Anne-Karoline Distel <annekadis...@web.de> writes:
I would say that memorial:cause=traffic_accident would leave the options
open whether the victim intended to die or not.
OK but IMHO traffic_crash is better. 'accident' is an assertion of no
blame, and there are messy issues of bad luck and negligence. crash is
objectively what happened.
Very true.
I don't know if wayside_cross is used for this in some instances, for
example, which IMHO it shouldn't be.
I don't follow. If there is a cross by the road, are you saying that
depending on the beliefs of the people that put it up about cause, then
it should or shouldn't be tagged wayside_cross?
A historic=wayside_cross does not mark the spot; it is not left in a
location where someone is buried or died. It is a way to make sure the
soul of the deceased gets into heaven easier by having passers by pray
for the soul. You don't have to believe in it, but that's what people
believed back then (and maybe some still do). I didn't grow up with this
practise, but this is what Catholic people did in Early Modern Ireland.
Not every cross by the wayside is a wayside cross. Like so many things
in the historic category, the tagging is a bit messy. Some examples in
my area: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1vVq
I guess I have a topic for a new video... There are a couple more
surviving in County Kilkenny, but I want to keep some work for the video.
I see; that's different. In the US, one typically finds crosses by the
road where presumably the crash occured and nobody thinks it is
necessarily the location of death. But again, do these have labels?
How do you tell? Definitely a good thing to explain to everyone.
We have loads of those as well, but they should be differentiated from
modern cross shape memorials which do "mark the spot". And not all
memorials for crashes/ accidents are cross shaped:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8243154427
Anne
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