Martin/Ruby/Rahul,

Let me express my opinion, in a 'non-linear' order:


On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 22:01, Martin Cooper wrote:
> different ball of wax, but then I know diddly about building voice
> applications. ;-)

Me neither :-(

> My primary concern is that there appears to be zero interest in this
> from the existing Jakarta Taglibs community. 

I disagree. I see at least 2 reasons why this taglib is interesting
(despite being totally ignorant on what's a voice application and which
browser is VoiceXML compliant):

1.It uses JSP 2.0. Besides Mailer 2 (which is also in the sandbox), no
other existing taglib in the project uses JSP 2.0
2.Not only it uses JSP 2.0 but the tags are implemented using tag files.
We don't have yet any taglib that uses this cool feature, so that alone
would be a great contribution of this taglib to the project.


On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 20:01, Sam Ruby wrote: 
> Proposal is Sponsorship.  I'm willing to sponsor this project through 
> the sandbox.  What that means is that I'm now looking into obtaining 
> software grants and/or CLAs, and filling out the incubator 

I think that in theory you should go through the whole Taglib 'committership election 
process' in order to do so.
But considering your involvement with the Jakarta projects (and ASF overall), I think 
we should be able to speed up 
the process by just giving you the jakarta-taglibs-sandbox karma (i.e., not the full 
Jakarta Taglibs commitership).
If that is not possible by the ASF bylaws, fine, we could just follow the regular 
process - I'm pretty sure you'll be easily accepted.


On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 22:01, Martin Cooper wrote:

> If none of the proposed committers for this taglib are existing Taglibs committers, 
> then I
> foresee RDC being its own little world, with little interaction with

Here is the chance to grab new committers for our project :-)

> the rest of Taglibs. I see Taglibs already as a (sub-)project that
> needs more synergy between the components, or at least within the
> community, 

I agree - we need more synergy, more new committers that can bring some
energy to the project. I, for instance, have many ideas that I'd like to
implement but haven't tried yet either for lack of time or lack of
feedback from my proposals/suggestions.


> and it seems to me that this (RDC) might lead us in the
> opposite direction, instead of helping to unify/unite us.

I disagree again - in my opinion, I'd rather have a couple of taglibs
isolated in their 'little worlds' but being actively maintained than a
bunch of dormant 'mainstream' taglibs (except by Standard and maybe
String/Mailer, most of the other taglibs have been pretty much idle for
a long time...).

> My 2 cents...

And here were mine...

-- Felipe



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