On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:28:54 -0500, Rahul P Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin, > > Thanks for your input. I'm not trying to re-invent anything, the last > thing we need is a new "logging abstraction" ;-) > > > As I understand it, the only dependency is Commons Logging. > > Log4j is optional - you only need it if that's the particular > > logging implementation you want to use. > > Are you sure? I dropped taglibs-log.jar in WEB-INF/lib and visited this > JSP: > > <%@ taglib prefix="log" uri="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/log-1.0"%> > <log:info>Lets hope we don't have any other dependency!</log:info> > > to be greeted with: > > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Priority > > Not sure where the log4j default assumption came from.
Been a while, but I'm pretty sure that the released log taglib (1.0) uses log4j, while the current CVS HEAD was changed to use whatever version of commons-logging was available at the time. (I didn't write the taglib, but I did do the release and the change to clogging). > 2) If the above log4j dependency is true, then the usage of the log taglib > within the rdc taglib has already bound the rdc-based app developer to > log4j (for the one log argument). Personal preference is one thing, I > definitely would not want to insist on a log4j dependency for all RDC > based apps. Shouldn't be that hard to release a 2.0 of the log taglib. Or 1.0 of a commons-logging taglib (rename the existing one), and maybe a 1.0 of a UGLI taglib. > > On every project I have worked on that uses JDK 1.4 as a minimum, > > we have used Log4j over JDK logging. > > Over JDK logging? I'm interested in knowing what taglib you used for your > JSP logging. > > > As Ceki (Mr. Log4j) and others have said many times, JDK 1.4 > > logging is like they based it on Log4j concepts but left out the good > > parts. ;-) > <snip> > > Anything that works with Commons Logging works with JDK 1.4 logging > > already. > > Well, am sure some of our friends are working on that ;-) I am not > interested in debating which one is better, I've gone through reviews and > now-famous blog postings ;-) But I do want the choice as a taglib author! > I do not see the JDK option being available at all, and if that is indeed > the case, maybe its time to change that. logging.apache.org do have their UGLI (or something..JULI?) interface which is a competitor to clogging now. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
