Re: [Tails-dev] State of TAILS accessibility with Orca; Tor totally works within Iran using Pluggable transports (ScrambleSuit)

Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:48:12 -0700 

Hi intrigeri
BTW, I Don't know how can i selectively quote you like you do in your mails :( 


Regarding the firefox issues, I will for sure test the new version. When 
my brother launched tails for me and we did find out that we have a 
successful connection to Tor, we were  excited so my feedback was a bit 
rushed.
I also think that he used the obfs3  feature, I need to ask him once 
more what he did on the start. the scramblesuit test on tor was done by 
myself on windows.



Regarding Thunderbird, I believe that it's generally an Orca issue that 
is not  fixed on Debian Wheezy and it is fixed  on  Debian Jessie, in 
orca 3.14. not in tails I guess. I'll have to send a mail to debian 
accessibility mailingList to see if this problem is on my end or not.



From what i got from your mails, Both tails v1.2 and tails unstable 
(based on next Debian version) do not have a HotKey for launching Orca 
on the greeter.
What do you think, Should i  download both of them, and with a help of a 
sighted person launch Orca and test both of them?
If i get the time this weak, I will try to do this and write a 
not-rushed feedback.


Thanks!
Hadi

On 11/2/2014 12:57 AM, intrigeri wrote:

Hi,

[no need to Cc me, I read the list.]

First, thanks a lot for this feedback! Much appreciated :)

Hadi Rezaee wrote (15 Oct 2014 18:15:03 GMT) :

Regarding Orca issues.
There's a slight problem with Orca  getting stuck on firefox while navigating 
with
the keyboard to read the sites.  you need to alt+tab out of firefox, and get 
in, to
fix it. It's not a  very chritical issue, but it's a very
annoying one.

Can you still reproduce this bug with Tails 1.2?

Bonus points if you try to reproduce this on current Debian stable
(Wheezy):  then, we could report this bug to Debian, and hopefully see
it fixed there instead of having to "wait" for Tails based on
Debian Jessie.


Also, general navigation is broken a bit, so you cannot interact with  forms 
with old
Orca and newer firefox, Orca loses the focus and drops you at the
first of the page.

Same question. It might be that Firefox 31 improved the situation.


In Thunderbird,  Orca's focus jumps around and when i read the subjects, Orca
randomly mutes the speech in the middle of speaking.

We don't ship Thunderbird yet (https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5663).
Does this happen to you in Tails?


Regarding features, There's some new focus mode features for browsing, that 
makes it
easier to interact with forms and buttons. There's also a new feature that 
turns off
the  virtual layout view off, allowing users to brows sites line by line with 
Orca.

Good to know. That'll have to wait for Debian Jessie, unfortunately.


I just saw your link regarding Debian Jessie. I think there are many good
improvements on next Debian Jessie, and the accessibility team is putting a very
great amount of energy on that.

:)


How's the state of tails unstable with Debian Jessie. Can i test
it out?

The basics work fine, but many things are known to be broken:
https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/roadmap#Tails_4.0

We haven't run any Tails/Jessie ISO through our QA process yet, so we
can't guarantee that it meets our security and anonymity requiements.

But it's exactly the right time to test accessibility support in
there, because it will soon be too late to get bugfixes into
Debian Jessie.


Is there a way for me to launch Orca at the greeter window, if the
testing version has one?

Unfortunately, we haven't worked on our ticket #7500 (that you
commented on two weeks ago) for our Jessie-based version either :(

Any taker?

Cheers,


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