The primary questions here is:

<Should a suburban roundabout be mapped as a node or as a loop?>

My position is a node for three reasons..

+ When you cross this kind of roundabout when cycling, or with a learner
driver, you don't have to worry about the characteristics of the road you
are crossing (since you never turn into the traffic of the cross road, you
just cross the roundabout).  This isn't just about cyclists and learners.
Its about the nature of the intersection.

+ It represents what is on the ground accurately.  Often there is less of
an actual diversion than many other traffic calming devices, which are not
mapped.  To draw it as a deviation in the road, just isn't what is there.

+ These have a very standardised appearance, and should be represented in a
standardised way, like a template.  The benefit isn't just in time-saving,
but in identifying that all these roundabouts are very much the same.

Once this is decided there are other questions to answer...

<Is it reasonable to overload (reuse) a tag (mini-roundabout) originally
designed to represent something else overseas, that doesn't exist in
Australia?>

<How to define this kind of roundabout?>

<If we need a new tag, what should that tag be?>

Many of the points in this argument aren't being made against having some
types of roundabouts mapped as a node, but rather are arguments against
overloading tags that mean something else outside of Australia.

Other arguments are saying that the current definition is poor.

I can agree with these arguments, to a certain extent.  (Although I think
people arguing against overloading tags have a bigger campaign on their
hands than just mini-roundabouts.)  However, before we can get to them, we
need to decide if this kind of roundabout is best represented by a node, or
a loop.  Then progress to what, if anything, the tag should be.

Ian.


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