Hi. Suburb can mean an area bounded by a gazetted boundary. There is a sense in which town is similar to suburb, in the sense of how the boundary is defined. I am pretty sure the UK is different in this regard.
I don't know if West Pymble is a gazetted suburb (I think yes), but it would then have a boundary. The name you see is likely a node, possibly placed within the gazetted boundary for West Pymble, or possibly not. See the recent discussion on this list for town vs city, in the OSM sense. - Ben. On 20/12/2012 9:35 PM, "Darren Burt" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > I wrote a long question at OSm help and they referred me to you guys. Hope > you can help me help OSM. > ------- > Hi > > I've been editing around the area, and noticed that the location of the > [suburb][1] is not what I would have called a reference to West Pymble. I > would have called West Pymble the shopping centre located [here][2]. I note > the following with respect to Sydney: > > a) Cities. There are few 'cities' in comparison, to , eg California, where > I would have compared many cities to be 'suburbs'. It's probably a > population thing. There seems to be a trend towards more cities, (eg > Sydney, Parramatta, Bankstown, Penrith etc) but in general usage, most > places are referred to principally as 'suburbs'. > > b) Towns in general are referring to country centres. If I 'went to town' > in Sydney, I would be going to Sydney City centre, eg Town Hall station. > This is in contrast, eg to the UK, where many of the places I would have > referred to as suburbs were referred to as towns. > > These are probably a historical growth thing. Sydney has generally > expanded organically from a central point. > > c) As a general definition, if somebody referred to just the suburb, they > would refer to the principal activity centre of that area. In most cases > that is the main shopping or commercial area. Sometimes it might be a train > station. Sometimes something else. But if you drive to the West Pymble > located above, you are in the middle of a residential area. And here's > where things extrapolate. > > **IMPORTANT** > Please refer to this recent article about [Apple Maps in Australia][3]. My > West Pymble example is trivial. However, in Australia is not just a matter > of inconvenience. > > I'd welcome any other Aussies kicking in their opinions as well. As I > said, my example is trivial, but it could turn wickedly wrong on some of > the cattle stations that are [24000 square kms][4] (6m acres). Centre of > that (geographically) could see you 100s or 1000s of kms away from help, > and be life or death. > > I went looking at the definition of suburb and [found][5] that it refers > to the 'centre of the suburb'. It is not clear if this is meant to be the > geographic centre or some other type of centre. This need clarification. > > Look. I'm new to this editing and everything. I am hoping to get some > clarification on this to help with not just this suburb, but to provide > valuable guidance for other suburbs as well. I would request an update to > the wiki as well to help clarify this. > > Appreciate your help. > > > [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?**lat=-33.756665&lon=151.128885&** > zoom=18&layers=M<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.756665&lon=151.128885&zoom=18&layers=M> > [2]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?**lat=-33.761018&lon=151.128327&** > zoom=18&layers=M<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.761018&lon=151.128327&zoom=18&layers=M> > [3]: > http://www.geekosystem.com/**apple-maps-australia/<http://www.geekosystem.com/apple-maps-australia/> > [4]: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Anna_Creek_station<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_station> > [5]: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Suburb<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Suburb> > > ----- > > ______________________________**_________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-au<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au> >
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