Yeah, given the weather you guys have had, I'd expect plenty of water
there right now ! Wish we could have some of it ....

On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 05:00 +1000, Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
> Greetings all. I think toilets and  presence of drinking water should be 
> separate pieces of information easily obvious to any user. While all 
> campsites with drinking water will have toilets, the reverse is often not 
> true in NSW. 
> I was at one last weekend - fairly large and popular ( room for 30 or 40 
> tents and vans), within 2 hours drive from sydney, and it had no water except 
> for unreliable tank water. ( plenty last weekend lol). 
> 
> http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/Dharug-National-Park/Mill-Creek-campground/camping

Sounds to me like it needs be tagged as -

tourism=camp_site
camp_site=basic
amenity=toilet

The issue here might be the idea that the water there is "unreliable".
I'd use drinking_water:seasonal=yes, seems some 4K uses of that sort of
structure.

My point is that using camp_site=basic does not exclude you from
describing the camp_site using the other existing tags. Again, its a
short cut to assist in finding a possibly suitable site, end users will
quite likely seek additional info beyond camp_site=*.

David 

> This information is of interest to cycle tourists particularly, who need to 
> manage water supplies quite carefully. It is depressing to get to the 
> campsite only to realise you have to cycle another 10ks to get water. So I 
> would suggest the second tier be basic plus toilets without an assumption 
> about water. I do realise cycle tourists are only a small user group and will 
> probably use other more detailed resources though.  
> Cheers Adrian 
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> >> Whatever way it is cut there is a 'responsiblity', and I'd rather see the
> >> 'rules' and have the mapper make the choice from local knowledge rather
> >> than pass it to some remote person who can only judge it from a yes/no
> >> answer.
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> > I'm in also in favour of subjective decisions, when we need a subjective
> > decision, to be made close to the source.
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> > However, there are some tags that simply aim to group objective facts by
> > applying a ruleset to them.  From the description this looks like one of
> > those cases.  I look to see what amenity a campsite has, look up the
> > proposal, and decide on a category to assign it to.  I can choose to list
> > the amenities too if I want.
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> > People might misinterpret the ruleset, and meanwhile, we are losing hard
> > data about the amenities.
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> > Is there supposed to be a subjective step that I'm missing?  That is you
> > look at all the amenity, and make a judgement call on the category?
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