Yeah, given the weather you guys have had, I'd expect plenty of water there right now ! Wish we could have some of it ....
On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 05:00 +1000, Adrian Plaskitt wrote: > Greetings all. I think toilets and presence of drinking water should be > separate pieces of information easily obvious to any user. While all > campsites with drinking water will have toilets, the reverse is often not > true in NSW. > I was at one last weekend - fairly large and popular ( room for 30 or 40 > tents and vans), within 2 hours drive from sydney, and it had no water except > for unreliable tank water. ( plenty last weekend lol). > > http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/Dharug-National-Park/Mill-Creek-campground/camping Sounds to me like it needs be tagged as - tourism=camp_site camp_site=basic amenity=toilet The issue here might be the idea that the water there is "unreliable". I'd use drinking_water:seasonal=yes, seems some 4K uses of that sort of structure. My point is that using camp_site=basic does not exclude you from describing the camp_site using the other existing tags. Again, its a short cut to assist in finding a possibly suitable site, end users will quite likely seek additional info beyond camp_site=*. David > This information is of interest to cycle tourists particularly, who need to > manage water supplies quite carefully. It is depressing to get to the > campsite only to realise you have to cycle another 10ks to get water. So I > would suggest the second tier be basic plus toilets without an assumption > about water. I do realise cycle tourists are only a small user group and will > probably use other more detailed resources though. > Cheers Adrian > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 3 May 2015, at 10:02 pm, talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > > > > Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to > > talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: camp sites (Ian Sergeant) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 17:43:11 +1000 > > From: Ian Sergeant <inas66+...@gmail.com> > > To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > > Cc: OSM - Talk-au <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > > Subject: Re: [talk-au] camp sites > > Message-ID: > > <CALDa4Y+PKFmM7V+gZDb_aCxgwgLYiUCs24NDcGpTYsL=fey...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On 3 May 2015 at 15:27, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Whatever way it is cut there is a 'responsiblity', and I'd rather see the > >> 'rules' and have the mapper make the choice from local knowledge rather > >> than pass it to some remote person who can only judge it from a yes/no > >> answer. > > > > I'm in also in favour of subjective decisions, when we need a subjective > > decision, to be made close to the source. > > > > However, there are some tags that simply aim to group objective facts by > > applying a ruleset to them. From the description this looks like one of > > those cases. I look to see what amenity a campsite has, look up the > > proposal, and decide on a category to assign it to. I can choose to list > > the amenities too if I want. > > > > People might misinterpret the ruleset, and meanwhile, we are losing hard > > data about the amenities. > > > > Is there supposed to be a subjective step that I'm missing? That is you > > look at all the amenity, and make a judgement call on the category? > > > > Ian. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20150503/5e6bbae4/attachment-0001.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-au mailing list > > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Talk-au Digest, Vol 95, Issue 3 > > ************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au