Warin
All good input - agreed. The generic use of
'president.<woodclubname>@gmail.com is already well adhered
to. And the matter of searching in the end or the Club as a second
step I agree with. It is in fact, from a security/risk point of
view, all about mitigating the risks. The outright purpose was to
simply ascertain, where , in this fine country, are the 180 clubs.
Once people know that one is nearby, then they can resort to other
search methodologies t finally find it.
Interesting tonight after getting a few terrific replies like
yours, to ascertain the real issues legally, technically amd
emotionally, and we start asking questions like:
'Who would ant to knock off some 15 year old, outdated machinery
anyway?" versus the fact that jewellery companies and cash based
firms are already all over the OSM maps - so why would a robber
suddenly think woodworking clubs are a target ?
You and I are on the same page, Warin. They point still remains,
that there are committees on these clubs who remain paranoid, or in
fact, sensibly smart, in ensuring that ANY risk of an impact on
their not-for-profit club is worth safeguarding. So, if a MAP were
to make it 1% easier to FIND such clubs, then such a MAP should be
avoided. That's the impression I'm coming too, as I read and
evaluate everyone's answers. But the sad conclusion is, that we're
running scared of a 1% chance of impact, versus the terrific help
and awareness of how to join and enjoy such clubs, could attain.
And it is that LAST point that motivates me to find a solution.
Thanks, Warin!
Appreciate you, like other too, to find time to reply to my
passionate query,
Gary
On 06/07/17 19:43, Warin wrote:
Hi,
Andrew has it correct ... the map shows the actual location.
Many things on the map could be targets for theft - car
mechanics garages for instance.
Sorry but I don't see anyway that an area can be mapped for a
club workshop,
the address will be found to anyone who really wants it, all
that putting it in OSM does is makes it a little easier.
A google search on woodworking clubs gets a few hits - most of
them with addresses.
As for spam emails and emails to past office holders .. too
easy?
Email for club secretary? [email protected]
as an example -
The gmail account can be past from one office holder to the
next.
Gmail does filter spam somewhat too.
This may go against gmails rules .. contact them and see if they
can understand the requirement and if they would accept it.
Phone numbers are some what harder unless you have a landline at
the club premises - there you can forward a call to another
number .. and that number can be kept up to date for the present
contact person.
You will probably need to pay for 2 landlines - incoming and
outgoing - and some equipment to do the job.
If that is too much - a simple landline going to a message
recorder would be very easy.
On 06-Jul-17 05:50 PM, Gary Pope wrote:
Andrew
I think you've explained well, the approach here. The purpose
of OSM and my desire for a map showing general directory of
clubs is indeed a mismatch. But nonetheless, worthy of trying,
I hope you'd agree.
Until a solution for overcoming the risk or the fear of exposing
the location of the actual clubs is found, then pure OSM
appears not to be the way forward. But for those (like the six
example cases) that do want to promote their location, then
the way we already have it (minimal info to ensure no spam to
emails or unsolicited calls to phone numbers, or tagging out of
date names of committee members for instance) - then that aspect
was already a goer.
I'll standby for some more terrific feedback from this question
posed today. Thanks for your insight, Andrew.
Gary
On 06/07/17 17:34, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
Hi Gary,
I think that the options are either tag the exact
location as club=woodwork or leave it out of OSM. So I don't
agree with adding it on the suburb or locality. OSM is a
geographic database not a business directory, so we don't
have any way to add business without an exact location on
the ground.
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