A 'well known' routing problem.

Exists for areas of concrete too ... I think if you tag an area as pedestrian, or as steps .. routes will not go across them. For an area of steps the bottom, top and sides can have ways that are paths ... that gets around the routing issue. In the longer term routes should solve the problem .. they don't see it as an urgent issue as there are not many people using pedestrian routing.


On 01-Feb-18 01:45 AM, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
It appears that this is a long standing enhancement request for GraphHopper:
https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/82

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:17 AM Jonathon Rossi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    To clarify, both Google Maps and Strava routing can't do this
    either, I was trying to work out if OSM could do this.

    On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:10 AM Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        In the past I've mapped exactly what I've surveyed on the
        ground in local parks, however I've recently been using the
        OSM routing feature rather than from other services and I've
        discovered it can't route directly across a park that is just
        grass.

        In the following example, I've mapped:
        - the short grass track (eastern side) that council are likely
        inadvertently making each time they bring vehicles through the
        gate to mow the park (the rest of the park boundary has timber
        bollards),
        - trails that lead from the Greater Glider Conservation Area
        out into the park, the small bit of the "Trail Circuit" in the
        park isn't actually a well defined path it just opens up but
        it isn't grass and the amount of trees keep it path like
        - other well formed paths that lead out to roads

        
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_foot&route=-27.54259%2C153.22173%3B-27.54227%2C153.21904#map=18/-27.54200/153.22056


        The OSM Wiki states:

        > Ways (highway=path or highway=footway) leading into a park
        from a road, should always be connected to the road for
        routing purposes. It's debatable whether they should connect
        to the park area with a shared node, or cross over the polygon
        without connecting. TODO discuss
        > (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=park)

        If a park is just a big grass area (with maybe a few obstacles
        like a playground) then it feels like the responsibility of
        the routing engine to just do this (maybe with an access tag
        to say it is okay to do so). It feels wrong for us mappers to
        map a "grass" path through the park from each entrance that we
        feel is a main thoroughfare.

        Am I missing something, have others "fixed" this problem
        elsewhere?

        Jono



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