I am the author of bushtrax.com and also added a lot of 4wd tracks between
2008 and 2012 so should I add the listing to the contributors index?.
Interesting to note that the Holland Track trace came from bushtrax.com as
when I over laid my file it was a perfect match.

Keith

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> From: nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [talk-au] tagged links to photos
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> Are we free to add tag links to images to OSM as in this.
> http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=57903447
> The https://www.bushtrax.com site is copyrighted so I assume that such
> links to the photos need to be either accompanied by permission or
> disclaimer or suitable licence or display of the copyright, etc from the
> copyright holder.
> Does anything need to be documented on this page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia.
> Or is any url from the web of an image ok to be pasted without any further
> consideration other than relevance?
> Nev
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> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:36:23 +1000
> From: nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com>
> To: OSM - Talk-au <Talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [talk-au] tagged links to photos
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> clarification….as on most of the yellow nodes in the Achavi link…
>
> > On 8 Apr 2018, at 12:31 PM, nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are we free to add tag links to images to OSM as in this.
> > http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=57903447
> > The https://www.bushtrax.com site is copyrighted so I assume that such
> links to the photos need to be either accompanied by permission or
> disclaimer or suitable licence or display of the copyright, etc from the
> copyright holder.
> > Does anything need to be documented on this page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia.
> > Or is any url from the web of an image ok to be pasted without any
> further consideration other than relevance?
> > Nev
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> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:59:01 +1000
> From: Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com>
> To: nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM - Talk-au <Talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] tagged links to photos
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> For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5536892235
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> The wiki summarises the image key pretty well
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image
>
> The image may be copyrighted, but a including a link should be fine, just
> as the website key links to copyrighted websites. We're not using that
> image to derive any information about the object in OSM.
>
> Personally, due to the reasons mentioned on the wiki we should discourage
> use of the image key, anyone that wants an image of that viewport can query
> wikimedia, flickr, Mapillary, etc. for photos within a few meters of the
> location.
>
> On 8 April 2018 at 12:31, nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are we free to add tag links to images to OSM as in this.
> > http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=57903447
> > The https://www.bushtrax.com site is copyrighted so I assume that such
> > links to the photos need to be either accompanied by permission or
> > disclaimer or suitable licence or display of the copyright, etc from the
> > copyright holder.
> > Does anything need to be documented on this page
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia.
> > Or is any url from the web of an image ok to be pasted without any
> further
> > consideration other than relevance?
> > Nev
> >
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> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:04:10 +1000
> From: fors...@ozonline.com.au
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> Nev
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> My guess is that its OK to link to copyright data without any
> disclaimer. I do however have concerns about the verifiability of
> these nodes and relevance of the images.
>
> Would we identify these locations as viewpoints? I doubt it.
>
> The images are not of the mapped feature, they are from the viewpoint
> not of the viewpoint.
>
> Tony
>
> > Are we free to add tag links to images to OSM as in this.
> > http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=57903447
> > The https://www.bushtrax.com site is copyrighted so I assume that
> > such links to the photos need to be either accompanied by permission
> >  or disclaimer or suitable licence or display of the copyright, etc
> > from the copyright holder.
> > Does anything need to be documented on this page
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia.
> > Or is any url from the web of an image ok to be pasted without any
> > further consideration other than relevance?
> > Nev
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> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:09:11 +1000
> From: nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [talk-au]  tagged links to photos
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> A GoogleMaps image is ok too?…when they are of of a mapped feature (and
> not used to map the feature)? or is this different?
> https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.9560741,119.9166289,
> 3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipM_Vhku1tFjnVrw8FDsYSYLFmw0Evpu6U
> sVGGQ1!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM_
> Vhku1tFjnVrw8FDsYSYLFmw0Evpu6UsVGGQ1%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5344!8i3006
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> >
> >> Are we free to add tag links to images to OSM as in this.
> >> http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=57903447
> >> The https://www.bushtrax.com site is copyrighted so I assume that
> such links to the photos need to be either accompanied by permission  or
> disclaimer or suitable licence or display of the copyright, etc  from the
> copyright holder.
> >> Does anything need to be documented on this page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia.
> >> Or is any url from the web of an image ok to be pasted without any
> further consideration other than relevance?
> >> Nev
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> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 15:32:15 +1000
> From: nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com>
> To: OSM - Talk-au <Talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [talk-au]  tagged links to photos
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> I think Google images are an exception after looking at the following and
> point 2d  seems particularly relevant.
> https://www.google.com/intl/en_au/help/terms_maps.html
> At https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image the ‘unresolved issues’
> should be considered and commonsense would suggest that Google images are
> not suitable.
>
> Thanks for your comments.
> Nev
> > On 8 Apr 2018, at 2:09 PM, nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > A GoogleMaps image is ok too?…when they are of of a mapped feature (and
> not used to map the feature)? or is this different?
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> From: "Joel H." <joelh@cocaine.ninja>
> To: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [talk-au] Virtual Mapping Party for Brisbane
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> Hello everyone!
>
> With the next Brisbane mapping party dawning on us very shortly, I
> though it would be a great opportunity to get community involvement in
> remote mapping the buildings from satellite!
>
> The area will be around Indooroopilly, Taringa and St Lucia, Since that
> will probably be where our next event is.
>
> I will colour-code loose zones for people to map in (similar rules to
> HOTOSM, try to stay in your zone).
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>
> So please, if you are interested please respond ASAP!
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> -- Joel H.
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