+1 to what Andrew and Seb have already said. This mailing list is a great place for this kind of discussion (including 1-5). It ensures the discussion is publicly documented for reference, everyone is included (no private discussion) and accessible regardless of where you based, and unlike slack/irc you people can reply at the time of day or week that best suits them.
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines for regional standards. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix for lifecycle tagging of proposed, planned, construction, disused, abandoned, demolished, removed etc.you could map proposed/planned greenfields, nature reserves etc. On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:43, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au < [email protected]> wrote: > Country: Australia, Language: English, Topic: Regulation > > This AU email forum is the best there is, but I wish there was something > more. So, I will bring this topic up here where there may be community > support for something extra. From the header above this user group is > already specific but is it specific enough? This group discusses mostly > detail, but the details revolve around a concept and that is what I am > interested in here. The recent Wollongong discussion bought this to light. > The fundamental assumption is that OSM represents the real world. > > What is covered? > > 1. Database design: The OpenStreetMap is a database and use is > restricted by its design, key types and permitted values. There is however > much scope in actual use that depends on interpretation. > 2. OSM standards: Some of this ambiguity is resolved in the best > practice outlined in the OSM Wiki and worth knowing, as it is an attempt at > standardisation and actively enforced by some members of the community. > 3. Regional standards: The AU email forum serves as a regional > discussion forum to get some sort of consensus of how Australia issues are > to be dealt with in Australia, i.e. adapting OSM to Australian > requirements. > 4. State laws and regulations: Australia is a federation and each > state has its own laws and regulations. Local government is another level. > This autonomy shows up in OSM particularly in terms of permissions: who can > do what. In this context, we need to consider private/public property, > military and secure zones, and finally nature reserves and national parks > with restricted access but special rules. > 5. Planning codes and zoning: This last one has got to do with how > land is used over time which arises in OSM as life cycles and featured also > in the Wollongong discussion as “regeneration”. It commonly arises with the > rezoning of land, release of land for public use, leases on land for > grazing and private use (parking). I have an interest in greenfield public > land developments: rezoned or planned. Once it has funding (parliament) the > project passes the hurdle that something changes in OSM, even though at > this stage it may not be anything visible. There is community interest to > see this on a map. There are many examples of this that include nature > reserves and new suburbs. End of life issues are track regeneration but > also track realignment which is common for mountain biking single track > management. It is not uncommon to hide but keep old track realignments. > > This AU email forum does not seem the pace for the last two items, but the > Wollongong discussion shows that awareness of these things is important for > the OSM maps to make any sense. Particularly if the maps are for navigation > (autorouting) or when render specialist maps (mountain biking or walking), > then such information is critical. There may be a discussion for a track or > area how to best define the permissions on paths and tracks. > > There is a lot of information on the web about this sort of thing on > government and official websites. I have further written to state > government departments requesting clarification and improvements. Local > tensions are not uncommon with competing claims. This tension can be seen > in the OSM community with certain keys toggling between individual > preferences. Mappers are people and advocate their interests on OSM and > sometimes join OSM specifically for this purpose. > > Are there any suggestions where matter 4 and 5 could be discussed and > links provided so that the OSM community can communicate, negotiate and > formulate a direction for these things? > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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