Hi Joachim, Thank you for your interest and your detailed proposals and analysis. As the custodians of the land wish others to only use Uluru however the official names are Uluru / Ayers Rock since 2002, I believe that your first proposal covers all bases.
*My preferred proposal for both features:name = Uluṟuname:en = Uluruname:pjt = Uluṟualt_name = Ayers Rockalt_name:en = Ayers Rockofficial_name = Uluru / Ayers Rockofficial_name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock* On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, 5:40 AM Joachim <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Aussies, > > the closing of the Uluru Climb gathered international news. So I had a > look at Uluru and saw some naming inconsistencies which might be > improved. I found no prior discussion about it and the features in OSM > have stable naming since 2015, so this seems to be a topic worth a > look. > > OSM has two features (notice the underlined r on some names which is > native Pitjantjatjara): > a) The peak (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2251425855) > name = Uluṟu > name:en = Uluru (Ayers Rock) > name:pjt = Uluṟu > alt_name = Uluru > > b) The "bare_rock" (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32639987/) > name = Uluṟu (Ayers Rock) > name:en = Uluru (Ayers Rock) > name:pjt= Uluṟu > > Two issues: > 1. Name is inconsistent between the two > 2. The Ayers Rock in parenthesis looks more like description than a name > > For the following proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara > explicitly because Uluru has some translated names. > My preferred proposal for both features: > name = Uluṟu > name:en = Uluru > name:pjt = Uluṟu > alt_name = Ayers Rock > alt_name:en = Ayers Rock > official_name = Uluru / Ayers Rock > official_name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock > > Alternative proposal for both: > name = Uluru / Ayers Rock > name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock > name:pjt = Uluṟu > alt_name = Uluṟu > alt_name:pjt = Uluṟu > alt_name:en = Uluru > old_name = Ayers Rock > old_name:en = Ayers Rock > > Some points to consider: > Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name nowadays in > Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the extent > ( > https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru > ) > The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock > (http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532) > The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian Government and > names it Uluru exclusively > (https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/) > > Best regards Joachim/Jojo4u from Germany > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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