On 29/10/19 09:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:
Thanks for consulting the list for feedback before making the change, such a big change like this should be discussed first.

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Joachim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    For the following proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara
    explicitly because Uluru has some translated names.
    My preferred proposal for both features:
    name = Uluṟu
    name:en = Uluru
    name:pjt = Uluṟu
    alt_name = Ayers Rock
    alt_name:en = Ayers Rock
    official_name =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
    official_name:en =  Uluru / Ayers Rock


+1
+1

I'm also okay with either alt_name or old_name for "Ayers Rock", with a slight preference to "old_name".

Some would argue that the true old name is Uluru. :)
I think alt_name is probably the better choice.

    Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name nowadays in
    Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the extent
    
(https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru)
    The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock
    (http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532)
    The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian Government and
    names it Uluru exclusively
    (https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/)


I agree.
Older ozies are more used to Ayers Rock... I still use it as I don't remember how to spell Uluru always and that is what I am used to.


On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 09:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    So, with such a mish-mash of underlined & non- names, my own
    preference would be:

    name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
    name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock
    name:pjt = Uluṟu
    old_name = Ayers Rock
    old_name:en = Ayers Rock

    if we need to specify name:en, if not, simply

    name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
    name:pjt = Uluṟu
    old_name = Ayers Rock


I'd prefer Joachim's proposal, I relegating Ayers Rock to as part of the official_name and either the old_name or alt_name. I believe most of the signage within the park uses the exclusive term "Uluru".



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