Update: Green are 2 different relations, so call it 1A and 1B - one (1A) is 
towards Brisbane and 1B is towards Sydney. We are focusing here on 1B.
If you do not split the road, you will have whole roundabout I section TO/FROM.

Thanks,
Nemanja

-----Original Message-----
From: Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) 
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:08 PM
To: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

Honestly it would take too much time to look for these, but here's the example:
https://prnt.sc/rw0jhf

Please focus on a green relation, segment TO Sydney.

Thanks,
Nemanja

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:34 AM
To: Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) <v-neb...@microsoft.com>; Andrew Harvey 
<andrew.harv...@gmail.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

On 9/4/20 5:40 pm, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) wrote:
> 
> Anyway, back to roundabouts...
> When approaching to roundabout, you will see at least one signpost which 
> informs you that you approaching to the roundabout. It will look like this:
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftiny
> url.com%2Fuam667d&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cv-nebrac%40microsoft.com%7Ca52744
> 1a54e645ec45e708d7dc691d9e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%
> 7C637220216336463661&amp;sdata=l80zq8dFvc6HbZmiqdhLhYIJxc1YahXtqBfRYPp
> fms0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> 
> and then, within the roundabout you have a new signpost which can be totally 
> different than it was before the junction:
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftiny
> url.com%2Fwagdlv3&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cv-nebrac%40microsoft.com%7Ca52744
> 1a54e645ec45e708d7dc691d9e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%
> 7C637220216336463661&amp;sdata=pbkEzfoJIAOn3gGUFkNQvrNLoP2%2FE7olll%2B
> 08URY46k%3D&amp;reserved=0

If you have two different destination signs then you have two separate 
destination_sign relations.
> 
> The reason why do we split it into couple of ways is to properly put 
> direction where it is possible to see the sign for the first time.

You do not need to split the ways. If you read the wiki page you will find that 
the members of the relation can be specified using the *nodes*

> 
> Davdson said, by OSM Wiki, everything is optional, except member "to". Yes, 
> you are correct, but if you put both of these relations in "to" - how could 
> you recognize which one is before another? The other thing is that if you put 
> first signpost in relation with "to" member only (or with "intersection" and 
> "to" members), but without "from" - destination signpost would be displayed 
> from ANY direction that you are coming from.
> 

Do you have a real world example? If you do I can tag it for you, it's going to 
be easier than trying to explain it.
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