On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 07:24, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andrew > Trail closed signage will be rapidly destroyed, often in a few days. > Placing trail closed signage at a trail start makes the start of > illegal trails more visible and attracts traffic.
It's a catch-22 then, without the signage then it's per the law not illegal to use. To be honest I don't think placing a trail closed sign at the trail start makes it more visible and attracts traffic, many people will see that sign and choose not walk there, compared to no signage when they'd be like oh there's a track here, nothing to say it can't be used. > A park will often > have signage at all entrances which says "keep to formed trails" which > can be ambiguous especially to a mapper who believes in mapping > everything. > "keep to formed trails" but those illegally constructed tracks look like formed trails to many users of the park, so keeping to the formed trails to me still allows me to walk on the illegally constructed tracks. > Parks will refer you to a copyright map of legal trails and have > difficulty understanding why you can't use that as evidence. > I don't want to be the enemy here, I'm all for preserving sensitive landscapes to prevent damage and erosion, where a track has legally been closed then we should mark it as access=no which data consumers should treat that as no open to the public. I can sympathise with the park operator, why should they have to be constantly monitoring for any signs of a track anywhere in the park and installing signage everywhere, why can't they say these are the areas we authorise everywhere else is not authorised, I guess they can install signage to that effect. I guess that's one use case there of OSM for park operators, it can help alert you of where tracks are forming that you might not have intentionally created.
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