Well, that pretty much matches what I said before:
Anything that remotely looks like a footpath (is meant for people to walk on) is, in the absence of one of the 4 (3 + one mirrored) official signs I linked, a footpath. It is not in any way limited to things that would be tagged as “sidewalk” in OSM. e.g. take this example from my local neighbourhood: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/889134418067881994/unknown.png In the absence of any signs saying otherwise (spoiler, there aren’t in this case) all of these are “footpaths” as defined by law. From: Kevin Pye <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2021 22:09 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; OpenStreetMap <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags Hi all http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_reg/rsrr2017208/s250.html ROAD SAFETY ROAD RULES 2017 - REG 250 says "Footpath is defined in the dictionary" but it doesn't say which dictionary. "The dictionary" is the dictionary in schedule 5 pf the Road Safety Road Rules -- http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_reg/rsrr2017208/sch5.html The definition there is fairly broad: ""footpath", except in rule 13(1) <http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_reg/rsrr2017208/s13.html> , means an area <http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_reg/rsrr2017208/s350.html#area> open to the public that is designated for, or has as one of its main uses, use by pedestrians" Not particularly helpful. On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 21:44, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > In regards to your changeset comment: "I doubt that means that all > paths are footpaths unless otherwise signed." > Generally speaking, yes, they are. In the absence of one of these signs Hi all http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_reg/rsrr2017208/s250.html ROAD SAFETY ROAD RULES 2017 - REG 250 says "Footpath is defined in the dictionary" but it doesn't say which dictionary. Apparently the word "footpath" is used differently in different countries. In Australia it means a US "sidewalk". "A sidewalk (North American English), pavement (British English), footpath (Oceanian English), or footway, is a path along the side of a road." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidewalk This is what my understanding of the footpath rule is in Victoria Australia, don't ride on the path that runs between the property line and the kerb. That's not we are talking about here ways 157071087 and 304507133 intersection https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.923613888889015 <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.923613888889015&lng=145.32910000000004&z=17&pKey=941113219764485&focus=photo> &lng=145.32910000000004&z=17&pKey=941113219764485&focus=photo So I disagree with the suggestion that all paths are, for legal purposes, footpaths unless otherwise signed. Tony _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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