Hello,
Things have escalated somewhat:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/118091243
(There has definitely been something lost in translation, as this change
isn't an example of what I was speaking to the editor about.)
As Kim said, I'm not talking about the marginal cases.
These are situations where an additional highway has been drawn for a
left hand turn where there is no slip lane; and where right hand turn
lanes are mapped as an X rather than a box.
I'm not sure if the editor is on this list, but I don't believe further
engagement will work.
Dian
On 2022-03-05 10:48, Luke Stewart wrote:
Personally, for shallow slip lanes like this, I map with the angle of
the island and do not make curves where it joins the new road.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 at 10:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
wrote:
Continuing on with that line of thought & looking at the example
mentioned in the other thread:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/-31.99548/115.99338
How should that left turn from Tonkin Hwy to Hale Rd be mapped?
As a relatively smooth curve the way it is now, or as an abrupt 45°
angle at the physical traffic island eg ___/_|__ ?
Thanks
Graeme
On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 at 08:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
wrote:
Looking back at the notes from the previous discussion & spotted this
comment:
"only split the way at the point where you can no longer physically
change lanes."
Physically, or legally?
Looking at the Princes Hwy/William Rd [1] example, yes, there's only a
painted line & island that you can physically cross, but that would
mean doing an illegal lane change.
Are we supposed to worry about that, or not?
Thanks
Graeme
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 19:57, Luke Stewart
<[email protected]> wrote:
(forgot to x-post to talk-au)
Hi,
The standard rule and the way that I map is to only begin a new way if
there is some form a physical separation, so extra turning ways which
can be completed with a box but are modelled as curves aren't following
this rule (same goes for ways that start when lanes start rather than
branching off where the physical separation begins).
Whilst there are arguments like "it looks better" or "helps with
routing/direction finding/navigation", these are not reasons to break
osm, rather to improve software.
In the case of the Princes Hwy/William Rd [1] intersection, the
residential road should be drawn straight through the intersection,
with the right turn lane specified with keys such as turn:lanes and
change:lanes.
As for how to resolve with this user, probably affirming a regional
consensus would be most convincing.
Cheers,
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