No it is not because the road in front of the POV car in a one way road which is not allowed, it would even need you to drive for a little bit going the wrong way lmao.
From: Luke Stewart<mailto:suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:52 AM To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com> Cc: Dian Ågesson<mailto:m...@diacritic.xyz>; talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 It is also acceptable from the point of view of the camera as stated in the Road Rules. On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 10:18, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes at the median is fine, but not from where the point of view of that picture is. TheSwavu has allowed u-turns starting from exactly the point of view of that picture and back From: Luke Stewart<mailto:suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:28 AM To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com> Cc: Dian Ågesson<mailto:m...@diacritic.xyz>; talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 The intersection shown in mapillary without traffic lights https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=764585334231385&lat=-34.72009104&lng=138.66975917&z=17&focus=photo would be one where performing a u-turn is allowed. As you go along the mapillary trace, you can even see two different vehicles making u-turns in median breaks. On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 09:52, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote: You are wrong, you can not do u-turns at t-intersections on a one way road From: Dian Ågesson<mailto:m...@diacritic.xyz> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:39 AM To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com> Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 Anthony, This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just to be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the buttons without question and you are happy to defend every single one of his edits Speaking personally, I am not defending every single one of his edits, as I have not reviewed them all. However, every edit that you’ve referred to in this mail chain as being “wrong” hasn’t had any issues. We’ve covered: - Deleting a restriction which does not contain a from/to way (valid) - remodelling intersections to remove crosses (valid) - adding a u turn using a way as a “via” member (valid) And you have now raised a different type of problem, - Removing a u turn restriction at an intersection with no traffic lights. On the latter point, I quote https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/__legislation/lz/c/r/australian%20road%20rules/current/2014.205.auth.pdf A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection without traffic lights if there is a no U-turn sign at the intersection" Note 2— U-turns are permitted at intersections without traffic lights unless there is a no U-turn sign, even though traffic lane arrows indicate that the driver must or may turn right—see rule 92. this is now the fourth type of error which isn’t actually wrong. If there is a valid issue, then obviously it should be fixed. But I am unable to identify a problem in the edits you’ve raised. Please, take a deep breath and consider some of the points raised before responding with another flurry of emails. dian On 2022-05-02 22:49, Anthony Panozzo wrote: This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just to be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the buttons without question and you are happy to defend every single one of his edits From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:16 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org> You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12 (Anthony Panozzo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:44:40 +0000 From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12 Message-ID: <pr3p192mb092730c19a6c808662675473cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com<mailto:pr3p192mb092730c19a6c808662675473cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" You said this ?I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or traffic lights:? which is 100% incorrect, you can only do a u-turn if there is a sign permitting you to do so. You don?t have the understanding to be able to blindly click buttons from this state,ent alone, and yet people will come to your defence lmao From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org><mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:10 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org><mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12 Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org> You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson) 2. TheSwavu (Anthony Panozzo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:33:00 +1000 From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) Message-ID: <80784b78-0628-85f3-f104-1f10b652d...@gmail.com<mailto:80784b78-0628-85f3-f104-1f10b652d...@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 3/5/22 08:18, Anthony Panozzo wrote: > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me > it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections Gmail will send an email to both the mail list and the original sender by default on reply. You will have noticed the list email address in the CC:. Or maybe you didn't notice? By the way, the link you sent me off-list: https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/ says exactly the same thing I was trying to explain to you. Perhaps this video might make it clearer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:38:42 +0000 From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: [talk-au] TheSwavu Message-ID: <pr3p192mb0927765cf14135074d2b08a2cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com<mailto:pr3p192mb0927765cf14135074d2b08a2cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" By directly emailing me he trying to mess up the way au-talk is formatting, no one here gets to see what he is emailing me, he has no clue about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org><mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:04 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org><mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 11 Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org> You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org<http://community.osm.org> (Andy Townsend) 2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson) 3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo) 4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100 From: Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com<mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org<http://community.osm.org> Message-ID: <fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com<mailto:fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't > used Discource enough to picture how it works. > If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click "new topic". Best Regards, Andy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000 From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>> To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) Message-ID: <cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:cacxr7k04v4tzc%2bsr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc%2bhjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote: > I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 > | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service > road. > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or traffic lights: https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/ There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20220503/e5bb1aac/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +0000 From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>" <talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) Message-ID: <pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com<mailto:pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6) On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com><mailto:pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>> wrote: I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road. I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or traffic lights: https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/ There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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