On 24/10/22 17:16, Phil Wyatt wrote:

Many thanks Sigurjon

I don’t suppose you have accessibility data as well? That would be great to know as well.

  * wheelchair=yes/no – suitable for wheelchairs?


They were put in for things like wheelchairs.. so yes they take wheelchairs, and prams and bicycles

 *


  * tactile_writing:braille:lg=yes/no?


I'll have a look next time .. but I think they have tactile things on the buttons too..

 *


Cheers - Phil

*From:*Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, 24 October 2022 3:37 PM
*To:* Warin <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Phil Wyatt <[email protected]>; OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to description elevator shell

Hi Warin,

Apologies for not getting back to you and acting on this.

We will revisit all these locations and update in the coming days.

Below is how we plan to tag the two typical scenarios:

*inside a building *

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900>

highway=elevator


The highway=elevator already exists within these ways as a single node. See example 2 below .. where someone has used it like this.

building:levels=2

That would mean it only is on building level 2.. and it would not go from another building level.

indoor=room

That would mean it is within a larger building...

room=elevator


For pedestrian navigation the highway=elevator as a single node and the connected highway=footway should work..


Indoor mapping is not my thing .. I don't think many here have tried it.


Some examples may help?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/281120247

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350884415 note here the duplication using https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3566114780 and the node is what the footways connect to.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3446811813

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/534454027

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4037948794

*outside building (stand alone) *

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993533793 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993533793>

highway=elevator

building:levels=3

building:yes

description=elevator shell

That would mean it only is on building level 3.. and it would not go to/from another building level.

Please let me know if you are not happy with this approach.

Regards,

Sigurjon

TfNSW

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 22:27, Warin <[email protected]> wrote:


    On 23/10/22 21:46, Phil Wyatt wrote:
    > Hi Warin,
    >
    > Both of those examples were previously build:part=elevator. Its
    probably
    > worth asking why they changed them to building:levels=elevator.
    That seems
    > to be a more appropriate tagging.


    building:part should be a 'part' of a building .. not the entire
    building .. they are both tagged with building=yes.

    One example

    https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524/history

    has no past history .. so no previous key of building:part.


    I'd have no problem with building=elevator_shell, but they are
    building=yes. I am happy to change that too, if acceptable?

    I have been using building=silo with man_made=silo (key building for
    rendering the area .. man_made just does a symbol).


    >
    > Cheers - Phil
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Warin <[email protected]>
    > Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 8:41 PM
    > To: OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]>
    > Subject: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to
    description elevator
    > shell
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > There are ~260 of closed ways with the tag
    'building:levels=elevator'.
    >
    > This tag should have numbers as the value not text, the number
    being the
    > number of levels.
    >
    > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels.
    >
    >
    > These object all are associated with railway stations around
    Sydney and
    > appear to have been added by members of TfNSW team. I have left
    a message on
    > one of their members changeset but have had no reply.
    >
    > There are no other uses of this tag elsewhere in the world.
    >
    >
    > My thoughts are to change the tag to 'description=elevator
    shell' as these
    > look to be the walls around the outside of the moving elevator
    that is
    > presently mapped as a node in these cases.
    >
    >
    > Examples
    >
    > Way 993829900 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900
    >
    > Way 996164524 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524
    >
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    >
    >
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