Some of these could be 'traveling stock routes' used in the old days to
drive cattle to market.
Those are administered locally and 'public access' can be dicy depending
on past activities (eg littering) by 'the public'. Local land owner can
be 'defensive' from past livestock theft.
Use with caution, possibly best to talk to the local council.
On 11/12/23 19:15, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
In SA, there are a number of "Unmade Road Reserves". Where it gets a
bit interesting is when someone either illegally fences it off; or
applies for it to be transferred to them via something like Roads
(Opening and Closing) Regulations 2021.
Generally, I've mapped these were there is a path, track or similar
made by people, and where there are gates/restrictions/similar;
modelled what is seen on the ground + left a note/sent email to
various councils, who tend to be terrible at replying.
You/ could/ map some of these as "highway: proposed" but there may not
be much value in it, since a lot of these have been around for decades
and never turned into roads or other access because it is impractical.
The UK has a similar problem.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/35408/rights-of-way-mapping-united-kingdom
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:15 PM Adam Horan <[email protected]> wrote:
When comparing satellite imagery and various maps on Vic Maps, you
can find what seem to be road corridors that don't have roads in
them. (I'm looking on https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/ and
https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/ and when you show parcel
data you can see these linear areas that extend off the end of
roads, usually in rural areas. These linear areas do not show
parcel information, unlike the surrounding blocks)
They tend to be visible in sat imagery too as scrubby or rougher
land compared to the fields and paddocks around them.
I would love to be able to legally (and safely) use these as
walking and running routes in my surrounding countryside, and
also allow others to do so. They're attractive as they're traffic
free.
I'll link to some examples below, but I'll ask my questions here:
1. How can I validate if these are unbuilt roads, and how can I
check what the access is?
1a. I guess as these aren't main roads that they belong to the
local council?
2. If a path is already present then I can map that as a simple
path, but how could I map and tag the land?
Cheers,
Adam
Example 1 : Lambert Road, Pearcedale
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-38.1829/145.2334
If you look on VicMap you can see the corridor extends to the west
to meet with Middle Road.
https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-2TIhhoK5rNdNfc4m2WxVtMMraiG
https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h
<https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h>
This one seems pretty clear to me as there's a nice clear wooded
line, when I recently passed this on Middle Rd you could see an
unfenced section.
Example 2 : NW extension of 'Favorite Hill Rd' to North Road
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.17566/145.23470
https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-5PIrhAi6EP5M1ivchIyH9lfyGxF
https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h
<https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h>
This one is visible on sat imagery, however it does seem to be
fenced off from the established road.
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