On 11/12/23 22:55, Tom Brennan wrote:
In NSW these are known as Crown Roads, or 'paper roads' (where they are not constructed). They are administered by the state government, and in theory, access is public. It can be hard to tell just by looking at parcel data whether something is a Crown Road or not.

There has been a program in recent years of selling these off to the adjacent landholder.

In some cases these provide access to parks and reserves, and letters have needed to be written to the Dept of Planning to protest the relevant sale.

I assume Victoria probably has a similar system to NSW


Queensland too has similar 'gaps' between land allotments. Some of them used by the Bicentennial Trail.



cheers
Tom
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On 11/12/2023 5:40 pm, Adam Horan wrote:
When comparing satellite imagery and various maps on Vic Maps, you can find what seem to be road corridors that don't have roads in them. (I'm looking
on https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/ and
https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/ and when you show parcel data you
can see these linear areas that extend off the end of roads, usually in
rural areas. These linear areas do not show parcel information, unlike the
surrounding blocks)

They tend to be visible in sat imagery too as scrubby or rougher land
compared to the fields and paddocks around them.

I would love to be able to legally (and safely) use these as walking and
running routes in my  surrounding countryside, and also allow others to do
so. They're attractive as they're traffic free.

I'll link to some examples below, but I'll ask my questions here:
1. How can I validate if these are unbuilt roads, and how can I check what
the access is?
1a. I guess as these aren't main roads that they belong to the local
council?
2. If a path is already present then I can map that as a simple path, but
how could I map and tag the land?

Cheers,

Adam

Example 1 :  Lambert Road, Pearcedale
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-38.1829/145.2334
If you look on VicMap you can see the corridor extends to the west to meet
with Middle Road.
https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-2TIhhoK5rNdNfc4m2WxVtMMraiG
https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h
This one seems pretty clear to me as there's a nice clear wooded line, when
I recently passed this on Middle Rd you could see an unfenced section.

Example 2 : NW extension of 'Favorite Hill Rd' to North Road

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.17566/145.23470
https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-5PIrhAi6EP5M1ivchIyH9lfyGxF
https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h

This one is visible on sat imagery, however it does seem to be fenced off
from the established road.


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