We have natural=gorge https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgorge documented for a canyon. It's not mentioned on that page but on natural=valley https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dvalley it recommends to have one way for the waterway and another way for the valley sharing nodes, so I would do the same for natural=gorge.
Then you'd have the canyon name on the way with natural=gorge, and if the creek really has no name then leave the name off the waterway. You have to make a call if those "made up" creek names like "Firefly Creek" are in sufficient use to justify applying them to the waterway. I was also thinking if we separately set official_name https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:official_name where the name is in the GNR. It's just that the current use of that tag is only where there is a different official name to the one signposted/in common use. On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 at 22:09, Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > There are quite a few unnamed creeks in the Blue Mountains that have > canyons in them. The canyons have names. > > In some cases these creeks are just given the canyon name eg > > * Coachwood Canyon: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210714163 > * Closet Canyon: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/402128556 > > In other cases, the creek is given a name like <Canyon Name> Canyon Creek > eg: > > * Firefly Canyon Creek: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210707878 > * Newnes (Starlight) Canyon Creek: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210711464 > > Neither of these seems ideal to me. > > In the case of the first examples, the canyon generally makes up a very > small part of the creek. > > In the case of the second example, the names seem clunky and made up. I'd > be more inclined to use "Firefly Creek" rather than "Firefly Canyon Creek", > in the same way that many canyons are just given the name of the creek eg > * Dalpura Creek -> Dalpura Canyon ( > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/630408810) > * Yileen Gully -> Yileen Canyon > * Fortress Creek -> Fortress Canyon > Of course they are still "made up" names! > > The canyon names generally have acceptance in the outdoor community so I'm > not fussed about that. My question is how best to construct a creek name > for an unnamed creek, given the canyon name. And to then apply it > consistently! > > cheers > Tom > ---- > Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning > Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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