Or for simplicity they can just be the same way like here https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/732291558
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 at 07:10, Andrew Harvey <[email protected]> wrote: > We have natural=gorge > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgorge documented for a > canyon. It's not mentioned on that page but on natural=valley > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dvalley it recommends to > have one way for the waterway and another way for the valley sharing nodes, > so I would do the same for natural=gorge. > > Then you'd have the canyon name on the way with natural=gorge, and if the > creek really has no name then leave the name off the waterway. > > You have to make a call if those "made up" creek names like "Firefly > Creek" are in sufficient use to justify applying them to the waterway. > > I was also thinking if we separately set official_name > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:official_name where the name is > in the GNR. It's just that the current use of that tag is only where there > is a different official name to the one signposted/in common use. > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 at 22:09, Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There are quite a few unnamed creeks in the Blue Mountains that have >> canyons in them. The canyons have names. >> >> In some cases these creeks are just given the canyon name eg >> >> * Coachwood Canyon: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210714163 >> * Closet Canyon: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/402128556 >> >> In other cases, the creek is given a name like <Canyon Name> Canyon Creek >> eg: >> >> * Firefly Canyon Creek: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210707878 >> * Newnes (Starlight) Canyon Creek: >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/210711464 >> >> Neither of these seems ideal to me. >> >> In the case of the first examples, the canyon generally makes up a very >> small part of the creek. >> >> In the case of the second example, the names seem clunky and made up. I'd >> be more inclined to use "Firefly Creek" rather than "Firefly Canyon Creek", >> in the same way that many canyons are just given the name of the creek eg >> * Dalpura Creek -> Dalpura Canyon ( >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/630408810) >> * Yileen Gully -> Yileen Canyon >> * Fortress Creek -> Fortress Canyon >> Of course they are still "made up" names! >> >> The canyon names generally have acceptance in the outdoor community so >> I'm not fussed about that. My question is how best to construct a creek >> name for an unnamed creek, given the canyon name. And to then apply it >> consistently! >> >> cheers >> Tom >> ---- >> Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning >> Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >
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