I deleted them this morning and as long as the situation is not clear. -*φol d.*-
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:22, Gerard Vanderveken <[email protected]> wrote: > I was looking up some on the map, but it seems that tower:type = > communications is not rendered anymore??? > I tought they were before, altough only in Osmarender, cfr VRT radio and tv > towers in Overijse - Wavre. > > I see some have a name, but I'm affraid that it won't add much, but instead > duplicating and cluthering the rendering and names of the current places > (buildings like churches etc) > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7911333 > Some has also very generic names eg. watertoren, kerk, etc > > There is a Wiki about GSM in the Belgian project > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Mapping_resources#GSM.2FUMTS_antenna_sites > > Should the points not to be deleted, until the status about their use > becomes clear?? > For the moment it is obvious that it is forbidden data. > > Regards, > Gerard. > > Pol wrote: > > Hello, > > I contacted them this morning and they asked me to write down a mail > explaining the request, why, etc etc etc. > That's what I did. If you want a copy of the mail (in french), just contact > me in private. > > They told me that they will forward the mail to their law departement and > I should expect an answer next week. > > Let's cross our fingers ! ;) I'll keep you updated of the situation ! > > By the way, I'll be at the hackdemocracy this Thursday, April 28, 2011: > http://www.meetup.com/HackDemocracy/events/17010026/ > > Have a nice day all. > > -*φol d.*- > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 22:14, Pol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Someone forwarded me the mail from Lennard talking about the revert or >> not of my commit. >> I wasn't aware of the existence of that mailing list until now. >> >> Let me explain to all of you how it all began... >> >> One year ago I was looking, for personal purpose, the coordinates of >> each cell phones antennas in Belgium. >> >> The first site I found was: http://www.antennes-gsm.be/ >> But that one seems to be old and no more maintained. >> >> Then I found the one of IBPT: http://www.sites.ibpt.be/ >> >> The one you are currently seeing at this address is the new version. >> When I first found it, they were using an old version. >> >> By doing some searches, I found a huge security hole in it. >> I was unemployed at that time and I decided to make an exploit. >> The exploit was simple, using HTML and JavaScript, I could manipulate >> their databases by sending custom queries. >> I'm not a kid and I'm someone who destroy someone else's work, so I >> contacted them and explained the problem. >> The reaction was fast, some days later I was in their offices with my >> laptop, showing them the problem and the possible solutions. >> I also made a new local proof of concept that it could be done in a nicer >> and cleaner way. >> Unfortunately, they were really kind and say thanks but we do not rely on >> our team to do the map, we rely on another company and we cannot break the >> current contract with them. >> Before leaving, I asked to the head of security if it was possible to get >> a dump of the antennas coordinates in a more easy way to put it on >> OpenStreetMap and he said that it couldn't be done: "Imaginez ce que >> pourrait faire qqun de mal intentionné s'il trouve ces données!" which >> means: "Imagine what could do someone malicious if they finds these datas!". >> Which is completely a non sense because those datas can be retrieved from >> THEIR online website. >> I said him that ! Someone could spot by himself all the antennas and put >> them on OpenStreetMap. He didn't reply to that one. >> So, I leaved, quite sad. >> >> Some month later, the current new system was in place and the security >> hole vanished, problem solved. >> >> With the new system, it's even easier to get their datas. >> I decided to save in a file all the data I could get from their map in a >> file and submit it to OpenStreetMap. >> >> That's the end of the story. >> >> It's up to you now to decide if you want to remove them or not. >> If you have questions, I'll reply to them on that mailing list. >> >> Nice evening all. >> >> -*φol d.*- >> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing > [email protected]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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