Hi Erik,

This licence applies to the visualization service :
http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicServicesSPW.pdf

The text is quite uncomprehensible. I had a discussion with them that it
is not forbidden if you copy that on a map and mix with other data (what
we do in OSM).

Julien

Le 29/05/15 21:21, Erik Beerten a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I am Flemish but regularly mapping things in the south of Belgium.
> To be clear, is it correct that all map data on the Walloon PICC 2000
> (including the shape of the buildings) are free for copying to OSM?
> PICC is about the same as the Flemish AGIV GRB map but the building
> shapes on that map may not be copied.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Op 23-05-15 om 18:14 schreef André Pirard:
>> On 2015-05-15 15:13, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote :
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I want to learn how to use JOSM and benefit from your work, and use
>>> the "belgian settings" whatever this is that as I suppose simplify
>>> the tasks.
>>> ...
>> Bon maintenant,
>>
>> Regarding the "Belgian settings", I have mentioned before that JOSM
>> requires WMS EPSG:4326/3857 and reported to SPW in 2010 and here later
>> that the best WA server, which was the PICC server, returned blank
>> 4326 tiles. It even contained many WMS configuration errors such that
>> JOSM failed to configure it automatically.  There have been no
>> follow-ups to those comments, just that they are not interesting.
>> I have lately discovered purely by chance that the PICC bugs are now
>> corrected. It's possible to configure it with JOSM.
>>
>> The optimized PICC configuration can be installed with:
>> JOSM>Imagery>Imagery Preferences>Refresh
>> JOSM>Imagery>Imagery Preferences>select BE|SPW(allonie) PICC 2000
>> numerical imagery>Activate
>>
>> You may want to remove layer 49 to prevent redundant street names
>> obscuring the highways:
>> In ...>Selected entries:>SPW(allonie) PICC...>double-click column 2,
>> edit "49," out, <return> ... OK
>> Place names are in layers 56-60.
>>
>> The maximum zoom is 21.
>> I have filed a request that JOSM scaled the images above that zoom.
>> This will be done in June (JOSM guys are really great!).  While waiting:
>> JOSM>Windows>Layers>right-click SPW...PICC...>turn OFF: Automatically
>> change resolution
>> JOSM>View/Jump to Position>map=21... or zoom=5 metres
>> (repeat each time the layer is added)
>>
>> That PICC data is old (2000 I think, missing houses etc.).
>> I wish the more recent BASE imagery were available for JOSM.
>> But these do not support WMS EPSG:4326/3857 (;-) ).
>> PICC has a wonderful 25 cm precision.
>>
>> May I recall that (airplane) *aerial **photographs are a pitfall* !!!
>> What you see of houses is rooftops.  What must be tagged is ground
>> level walls.
>> Due to a varying shooting angle, the roofs are offset from the ground
>> polygon.
>> The offset can be as high as 2, 3, 4... meters, roughly 10 times the
>> precision.
>> The wall images are not vertical, you can see them often as a black
>> surface.
>> What must be tagged is the far end of that surface.
>> And the other end of the roof must be chopped by the same width.
>>
>> PICC does all that calculation for you, you will notice it.
>> It sometimes looks like it is wrongly offset, but look twice, it is
>> right most of the time.
>> You will see that by comparing it with other tagging.
>>
>> With http:...WMS...transparent=yes, use a dark gray JOSM background:
>> Add file ~/.josm/MyCSS.css  containing:
>> canvas { background-color: #404040; }
>> and use it with:
>> OSM>Edit>Preferences>Map Settings (3)>Map Paint
>> Styles>+>~/.josm/MyCSS.css ... OK
>> OSM>Windows>Map Paint Styles>select MyCSS
>>
>> Here is a sample of what PICC will look like on JOSM
>> <http://geoservices.wallonie.be/arcgis/services/TOPOGRAPHIE/PICC/MapServer/WmsServer?&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&FORMAT=image/png8&TRANSPARENT=false&bgcolor=404040&REQUEST=GetMap&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:3857&WIDTH=3000&HEIGHT=1000&BBOX=626381.8743881,6539659.6002846,627352.0063567,6539982.9776075&LAYERS=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60>.
>> (with vector OSM on top and aerial orthos seeing through!)
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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