Hi,

André is right but I think that part of the problem comes from the fact that 
the available documentation is sometimes contradictory.
A good starting point for anyone wanting to learn more is the Belgian 
conventions page 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Cycleways).

Indeed, oneway:bicycle=no is the recommended tag if cyclists can use the way in 
both directions.  This works best with most apps.

Using additional tags to describe more precisely the kind of infrastructure the 
users will enjoy is nevertheless helpful, for routing apps, for statistics 
about rate of protection, etc.
Despite Belgian traffic rules use the same word (fietspad - piste cyclable) for 
a reserved track (with D7 or D9 signs) and for markings (two stripped lines), 
in OSM-taal those could be tagged with cycleway=opposite_track and 
cycleway=opposite_lane respectively.  In Brussels, it is fairly common to paint 
logos or inverted V-signs on the street but those have no legally binding value 
and would probably not count as anything with "cycleway" in it.

I know that the wiki is not always the Bible but I saw that someone has 
recently rewritten the page about cycleway=opposite 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dopposite), to recommend 
*against* oneway:bicycle=no.  Shouldn’t we try to find a way to clarify this, 
so that we could tell new users how to map properly?


Cheers.
Yves




On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:33:36 +0100
"André Pirard" <a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I once read that routes of cyclists using OSM were laughed at by the others...
> 
> oneway=yes is a routing tag (used by GSM) indicating that only one way of the 
> highway can be used.
> That page says that the exception for bicycles to run contraflow is 
> oneway:bicycle=no.
> And that cycleway=opposite* is added for compatibility.
> Also, Key:cycleway says that oneway:bicycle=no. must be used with 
> cycleway=opposite.
> 
> All in all it makes much sense that only one oneway:bicycle=no routing tag be 
> used to allow bicycle contraflow.
> And that other tags like cycleway=* are not routing tags to be used by 
> routing software (GSM).
> They are just tags giving more detail about how the bicycles run.
> Why would a multitude of duplicating routing tags like detour:bicycle=yes or 
> shortcut:bicycle=yes be used Indeed?
> 
> Unfortunately, while writing an overpass script I noticed that many 
> cycleway=opposite* exist without oneway:bicycle=no and even without 
> oneway=yes.
> Please run this script to find some of them.
> I'm not going to give the nonOSM people I work with overly complicated 
> instructions.  I'm not going to make a complicated script. To write it "for 
> the errors".
> 
> Could we please correct those mistakes?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> André.

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