Hi, Would you be able to hold out until nov 21st? At that time, myself will have the shp-to-osm java script out of beta, and available to 'build-from' using python/java FME tools.
Frank has offered to be the main person to maintain the conversion script once im done with it. And Yes, i agree, the actual act of importing the .osm files (made by the scripts) can be done with a 'couch mapping party' Cheers, Sam On 11/7/09, Michel Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Frank, Yves and all, > > I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract > people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November, > could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with > no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace. We would need a > place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room > where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on > Wellington meets all the requirements. > > In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain > importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch). Any > volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be > to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I > don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in > development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We > (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but > the tool won't be available in short terms. > > If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize > the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda: > - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags > - Training on Importing tools > - Explain OSM xml file > - Training on JOSM > - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data. > > Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep > on discussing to put in place the missing pieces. > > Cheers, > > Michel > > > > 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink <[email protected]> > >> Yves Moisan wrote: >> >>> Hi Frank, >>> >>> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM >>> Sherbrooke list. Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end >>> November. I think the training you are proposing could be part of that >>> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper. >>> Michel, what do you think ? >>> >>> Yves >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> >>>> I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll >>>> share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to >>>> import Geobase and Canvec data? >>>> >>>> Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby lately, >>>> and he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with the >>>> import >>>> as well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there are also >>>> some >>>> people from Montreal interested. There is a large concentration of >>>> users in >>>> Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in between Montreal and Quebec, >>>> I >>>> think it would be the most obvious location. >>>> >>>> Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and >>>> edit / make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of >>>> Canvec and NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested >>>> in >>>> it. Maybe Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME, >>>> although >>>> I'm not sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has access to >>>> it. >>>> >>>> About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should also >>>> pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be imported. I >>>> also >>>> have no idea about the current data quality, but I expect this to be a >>>> huge >>>> undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales in comparison with that.) >>>> Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :) >>>> >>>> If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to >>>> organize such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small >>>> mapping >>>> party (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be enough. >>>> And of >>>> course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it won't be a problem >>>> to >>>> come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this before the winter >>>> really >>>> sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to venture outdoors anyways, >>>> so >>>> what would be better than to spend our time importing data in our >>>> beloved >>>> Open Street Map? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Frank >>>> >>> Hi Yves, >> >> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just >> an >> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for >> me >> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping >> party >> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For >> example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain >> a >> number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start >> afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to >> hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was >> not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and >> someone >> from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or >> something else going on. >> >> Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining >> momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in >> :) >> Daniel already mentioned that he and Michel were interested in adding >> Canvec >> data around Sherbrooke (although I hope they're willing to extend their >> efforts to the rest of Quebec too). Also Alex (user:Oxalin) and his friend >> are willing to lend a hand. So, that would already be 5 persons, if all of >> them can attend, and 6 including you. And, as mentioned I also hope to get >> some people from the Montreal area interested. >> >> Importing all of the data is a lot of work. I think that road-wise we're >> about halfway in Quebec. Not too bad, but it could be better, considering >> that other provinces are "finished". Importing is more than just uploading >> the data to the OSM server, so I want to pay some attention to cleanup an >> other quality aspects as well. This certainly improves the data quality, >> which opens the way for things like routing. Although information about >> the >> import is available in several places (wiki, talk-ca), it is hard for >> someone just starting to get going. Unfortunately the guy who took on >> himself to coordinate the import has a communication style which is hard >> to >> follow. Also the wiki pages are outdated, or not entirely correct (as is >> the >> current shp-to-osm page). Certainly, someone could improve it, but I think >> it would be more effective to show in person how things are working, what >> to >> look for, etc. Hence this idea. >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe send an email with subject "unsubscribe" to >> [email protected]. Please contact >> [email protected] for questions. >> >> > > > -- > Michel Gilbert > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
