Oh ya, I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :) Sam
On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m in! > > > > _____ > > From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49 > To: [email protected]; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > Cc: Yves Moisan; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import > workshop in Sherbrooke? > > > > Hi Frank, Yves and all, > > I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract > people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November, > could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with > no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace. We would need a > place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room > where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on > Wellington meets all the requirements. > > In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain > importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch). Any > volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be > to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I > don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in > development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We > (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but > the tool won't be available in short terms. > > If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize > the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda: > - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags > - Training on Importing tools > - Explain OSM xml file > - Training on JOSM > - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data. > > Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep > on discussing to put in place the missing pieces. > > Cheers, > > Michel > > > > > 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink <[email protected]> > > Yves Moisan wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM > Sherbrooke list. Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end > November. I think the training you are proposing could be part of that > meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper. > Michel, what do you think ? > > Yves > > > > Hi guys, > > I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll > share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to import > Geobase and Canvec data? > > Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby lately, and > he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with the import as > well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there are also some > people from Montreal interested. There is a large concentration of users in > Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in between Montreal and Quebec, I > think it would be the most obvious location. > > Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and edit / > make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of Canvec and > NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested in it. Maybe > Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME, although I'm not > sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has access to it. > > About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should also > pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be imported. I also > have no idea about the current data quality, but I expect this to be a huge > undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales in comparison with that.) > Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :) > > If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to organize > such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small mapping party > (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be enough. And of > course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it won't be a problem to > come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this before the winter really > sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to venture outdoors anyways, so > what would be better than to spend our time importing data in our beloved > Open Street Map? > > Cheers, > > Frank > > Hi Yves, > > What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an > event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me > to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party > (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For > example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a > number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start > afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to > hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was > not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and someone > from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or > something else going on. > > Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining > momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in :) > Daniel already mentioned that he and Michel were interested in adding Canvec > data around Sherbrooke (although I hope they're willing to extend their > efforts to the rest of Quebec too). Also Alex (user:Oxalin) and his friend > are willing to lend a hand. So, that would already be 5 persons, if all of > them can attend, and 6 including you. And, as mentioned I also hope to get > some people from the Montreal area interested. > > Importing all of the data is a lot of work. I think that road-wise we're > about halfway in Quebec. Not too bad, but it could be better, considering > that other provinces are "finished". Importing is more than just uploading > the data to the OSM server, so I want to pay some attention to cleanup an > other quality aspects as well. This certainly improves the data quality, > which opens the way for things like routing. Although information about the > import is available in several places (wiki, talk-ca), it is hard for > someone just starting to get going. Unfortunately the guy who took on > himself to coordinate the import has a communication style which is hard to > follow. Also the wiki pages are outdated, or not entirely correct (as is the > current shp-to-osm page). Certainly, someone could improve it, but I think > it would be more effective to show in person how things are working, what to > look for, etc. Hence this idea. > > > > Frank > > > -- > To unsubscribe send an email with subject "unsubscribe" to > [email protected]. 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