> The Geoboutique site also has lots of other interesting data, like 
> orthophotos. Too bad they're expensive. $65 per file, and there are 
> thousands of them. However, we wouldn't "need" that data per se, but if 
> it would only be available to OSM for tracing purposes (like Yahoo), 
> that would already be very much appreciated :)

Good point !  I don't know how Yahoo can provide the data to OSM for
free for tracing purposes and in other circumstances sell it to private
customers.  The Québec air photo data may be a different beast inasmuch
as IIRC there is one single private provider.  

One thing I would try to find out is how much money the government of
Québec (Geoboutique is the government) makes out of selling the air
photo coverage it paid for.  The logic is pretty basic here : the
government wants to recoup costs.  I'll put my toe in water and put
forth this hypothesis : Geoboutique doesn't make a whole lot of money
selling air photos.  There.  Please prove me wrong.  If they don't get
much money from sales (and please let's factor in the cost of the
computing infrastructure needed to sell the data), then there may be
open ears for sharing data for community purposes.

The other thing is I'm not sure there is a strong will from the
government to set up an infrastructure to share it's geodata.  If there
is to be a special agreement between OSM and the government for tracing
purposes, there will be a need for such an infrastructure.  

I just dropped by Geoboutique and I can't get much out of their website
on my Ubuntu laptop : "Ce site est optimisé pour le fureteur Internet
Explorer version 6.".  In fact I complained two years ago that
Geoboutique (or some other geodata government site) *required* not only
IE, but Microsoft's JVM for it to work properly.  A year later Firefox
users were simply told to use IETab to view the site ...  The site says
not it is "optimized" for IE6.  Point is : the logic here is
proprietary, cost-recouping and IE oriented infrastructure.  And it'll
probably be like that for as long as politicians want even though data
sales are probably nowhere near what they'd need to be to recover costs.

Prove me wrong ;-).

Yves

> 
> Frank



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