Hi Daniel, Great to hear that :) Do you think we are able to wait for that? It might be interesting to pursue to see if the gov't has more interesting stuff available.
Frank Bégin wrote: > Hi, just a short message concerning administrative boundaries... > > We are working on it for a while with the provinces. It should be made > available on GeoBase later this year. > > Cheers, > > Daniel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas Gignac > *Sent:* 19 janvier 2010 13:41 > *To:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries of Québec > > For electoral boundaries, see these links: > - Federal levels : > http://geogratis.cgdi.gc.ca/geogratis/fr/download/electoral.html > - Provincial levels : > http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/francais/provincial/carte-electorale/geometrie-des-circonscriptions-provinciales-du-quebec.php > > Nicolas > > 2010/1/19 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > Hi Pierre-Luc, > > Thank you for your insights. I was under the impression that the > Communautés métropolitaines had less authority than MRCs, although I > didn't look into it. If it weren't for these "comet"s (as this dataset > is called), there wouldn't be a problem. > > However, when looking at the extent of the Communauté métropolitaine > de Québec ([1]), it turns out that it spans multiple regions > (Capitale-Nationale and Chaudière-Appalaches), so it doesn't fit > nicely in the hierarchy. I think it would be better to treat them as a > different entity, and admin_level=6 can be used for the MRCs. The > Montreal "comet" contains municipalities of even more regions > (Montreal, Laval, Montérégie, Laurentides, Lanaudière). > > Regarding MRCs vs urban areas: I'll check in the data if that > information can be disseminated. Because they and MRCs are mutually > exclusive, they can have the same admin_level, but their designations > should properly reflect the situation. Wikipedia has an overview of > the agglomerations: [2]. I wonder if this list is really complete, and > I don't think that all of them are MRC equivalents. In Quebec City > there are also the enclaves of Wendake (First Nations) and > Notre-Dame-des-Anges (covering only the Hôpital général de Québec). > Anyways, I'll use the information from the geodata, and not base > anything on Wikipedia. > > The borough map of Quebec is already outdated. Things got change on > Nov 1st last year. La Cité and Limoilou have merged, and Laurentides > has been divided over other boroughs. See [3]. Anyways, a minor detail > :) > > For the other types of boundaries (electorial districts, > schoolboards), other values for the boundary keys should be used. [4] > For electorial boundaries boundary=political is used > ("boundary=electorial" would be better imho). > > Regards, > > Frank > > [1] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communaut%C3%A9_m%C3%A9tropolitaine_de_Qu%C3%A9bec > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_agglomerations_of_Quebec > [3] > > http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/temp/modifications_arrondissements/index.aspx > [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:boundary > > Quoting Pierre-Luc Beaudoin <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > Hi, > > > > Let's start a thread to create an official organization of the > > administrative divisions in regards with the numbering in OSM [1]. > > > > Skipping levels higher than 4 (reserved for things greater than > Québec). > > > > Here's my first shot based on all the info I could find on the > Ministère > > des affaires minicipales, des régions de l'Occupation du territoire > > (gosh they like the long names!) [3]: > > > > Level 4: Provinces and territories > > Level 5: Région administratives / Administrative regions > > (Level 5.5: Here would fit L'Agence métropolitaine de transport, not > > worth mapping) > > Level 6: Communautés métropolitaines / Urbans or metropolitan > communities > > Level 7: Municipalités régionales de compté (MRCs) > > (Level 7.5: Here would fit the Conférences régionales des élus of > > Montérégie (which is divided in 3), other CRÉ match their MRC > > boundaries, but I believe this information is not worth of mapping. > > Maps [4]). > > Level 8: Municipalités et villes / Municipalities, Cities > > Level 9: Arrondissements / Boroughs > > Level 10: Quartier / Quarter > > > > This list does not contain federal electoral districts, provincial > > electoral districts, municipal electoral districts, school boards, > > "Régions municipales de recensement" and "Agglomérations de > > recensement" [5] (what are theses?). Should we include all of them? > > > > Now if you look closely at the wiki table, my suggestion doesn't fit > > with the rest of Canada: Québec's MRCs would be one level down > compared > > to Ontario. That's because we have 2 levels between the > province and > > the cities. > > > > A real life example would be for the place I used to live in Québec > > City: > > > > Level 4: Québec > > Level 5: Capitale-Nationale (ref=03) > > Level 6: Communauté urbaine de Québec > > Level 7 is N/A (Québec is not part of an MRC, being a big city) > > Level 8: Québec > > Level 9: La cité (Map of the borough [2]) > > Level 10: Montcalm > > > > I believe it would make sens for all those names show up on a map as > > they are commonly used. > > > > Are there other opinions? > > > > Pierre-Luc > > > > NB: I believe there was a report from the OCDE stating that > Montréal was > > being over administrated. I agree :) > > > > [1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary=administrative > > [2]: > > > > http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/apropos/portrait/arrondissements/lacite/plan.aspx > > [3] http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca > > [4] http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca/publications/cartotheque/CRE.pdf > > [5] > > > http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca/publications/cartotheque/atlas_AR_RMR.pdf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
