Pierre: Isn't it exactly Richard's point that the fact that they're choosing their own, non-standard licence means that we OSM contributors won't be able to answer your question? We -- or at least most of us -- are mappers, not IP lawyers. So maybe the licence is compatible, maybe it's not. Without paying a lawyer to find out for us, we won't be able to tell. It's frustrating, but that's what it is.
Harald. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > Richard, > > I understand that you would prefer that this evolves differently, but lets > focus on the subject and try to progress in the right direction. This url > http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=0D3F42BD-1 describe proposed > license for the government of Canada Open data site to be effective soon. > Following discussions with provincial governments some agree if not all to > use the same license. This is the case of the government of Quebec. > > Could OSM contributors help to progress in the right direction and comment > about the license? After that we will be able to focus on obtaining more > data. > > The questionI ask yout to answer : Is this proposed license compatible or > not to import data into OSM. > > > Pierre > > ________________________________ > De : Richard Weait <[email protected]> > À : Pierre Béland <[email protected]> > Cc : talk-ca <[email protected]> > Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 mars 2013 7h04 > Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Licence donnees.gouv.qc.ca > > 2013/3/14 Pierre Béland <[email protected]> > > > [ ... ] This license is said to be derived from the United Kingdom license > which is said to be compatible with the ODbL (and thus OSM ). > > I would appreciate your comments on this. > > > All right. You asked. :-) > > The governments, municipal, provincial and federal, who choose to create or > modify an Open Data license are hurting Open Data. The first stab wound was > the misguided Vancouver Open Data license and we have not yet stopped the > bleeding. > > Modifying an Open Data license is similar to declaring that "in my > municipality, we will use a modification of a standard electrical appliance > plug and socket." The plug from a Waterloo Region toaster may be > incompatible with an socket in Quebec City in obvious or subtle ways. > > Household appliances might move periodically when an owner moves, or when an > appliance is sent as a gift. Open Data, by definition, is intended to be > combined and compared and moved about, further and more often than a simple > appliance. > > We've been clever enough to standardize our appliance plugs across the > continent. It is important to standardize our Open Data licenses around the > world. > > Governments. Use the Open Data licenses drafted and curated by the Open > Data Commons at the Open Knowledge Foundation. You (governments) do not > have the mandate from your citizens to spend their money to learn the things > that you need to know about international data law that are required to > draft a rational Open Data license. To do so in each municipality and > province is a phenomenal waste of resources. And you don't have the mandate > to consume resources to maintain that license once you draft it. > International data law is new and evolving. You can't keep up. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
