The SOTM presentation was interesting. Especially the bit about the 5% who would cycle anyway and these are often the people who are asked about what should be done to improve things for cyclists. Are we asking the wrong people?
I think we need to identify what tags would be useful for routing purposes and to identify which standard tags we can use. For example a nearby road has a cycle lane sort of depending how you define it. It does appear on the city's cycling maps but isn't snowplowed in winter and is not formally signed to provincial standards. It's Merkley Drive K4A 1M7 if you want to look at it. It used to be in Cumberland but got amalgamated into the City of Ottawa. There are other cycle lanes in the City of Ottawa that do not meet provincial standards. Traffic volumes would be nice but how do you estimate them or obtain them via Open Data perhaps? The City of Ottawa probably has the data and we are cleared to incorporate it into OSM. Thoughts? Cheerio John On 23 January 2018 at 17:15, Harald Kliems <kli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically >> I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. >> >> So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather than >> more major collector roads and you can't always determine from the speed >> limit if it's a cycle friendly road or not although I too avoid highways >> with a speed limit above 40 km/h. >> > There are efforts to identify bike-friendly streets based on OSM > attributes (and possibly additional data such as traffic counts). People > for Bikes, a large industry-sponsored advocacy org in the US has put money > forward to take the concept of "Traffic level of stress" and then use > OSM-data to calculate whether a specific street and intersection is > low-stress or high-stress. You can find a SOTM-US talk about the "Bicycle > Network Analaysis" project here: https://2017.stateofthemap.us/ > program/bicycle-network-analysis.html > > https://bna.peopleforbikes.org/#/ > > The bike advocacy group I'm involved with here in Madison (WI) has been > using the map/data generated through the Bicycle Network Analysis process, > and we're working on a validation process to a) figure out where our local > knowledge disagrees with the calculated stress value and then b) figure out > whether that's an issue of the underlying OSM data (spoiler alert: in many > cases it is) or a different issue. Happy to answer any questions about this. > > Harald (formerly Montreal, and therefore still subscribed to talk-ca) >
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