But it doesn't address traffic volumes or speed limits. Should we tag speed limits?
Cheerio John On 23 January 2018 at 18:38, James <[email protected]> wrote: > All that documentation was produced by Cycle Ottawa data devision. So by > cyclists for cyclists > > On Jan 23, 2018 6:30 PM, "john whelan" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The SOTM presentation was interesting. Especially the bit about the 5% >> who would cycle anyway and these are often the people who are asked about >> what should be done to improve things for cyclists. Are we asking the >> wrong people? >> >> I think we need to identify what tags would be useful for routing >> purposes and to identify which standard tags we can use. >> >> For example a nearby road has a cycle lane sort of depending how you >> define it. It does appear on the city's cycling maps but isn't snowplowed >> in winter and is not formally signed to provincial standards. It's Merkley >> Drive K4A 1M7 if you want to look at it. It used to be in Cumberland but >> got amalgamated into the City of Ottawa. There are other cycle lanes in >> the City of Ottawa that do not meet provincial standards. >> >> Traffic volumes would be nice but how do you estimate them or obtain them >> via Open Data perhaps? The City of Ottawa probably has the data and we are >> cleared to incorporate it into OSM. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 23 January 2018 at 17:15, Harald Kliems <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM john whelan <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically >>>> I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. >>>> >>>> So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather than >>>> more major collector roads and you can't always determine from the speed >>>> limit if it's a cycle friendly road or not although I too avoid highways >>>> with a speed limit above 40 km/h. >>>> >>> There are efforts to identify bike-friendly streets based on OSM >>> attributes (and possibly additional data such as traffic counts). People >>> for Bikes, a large industry-sponsored advocacy org in the US has put money >>> forward to take the concept of "Traffic level of stress" and then use >>> OSM-data to calculate whether a specific street and intersection is >>> low-stress or high-stress. You can find a SOTM-US talk about the "Bicycle >>> Network Analaysis" project here: https://2017.stateofthemap.us/ >>> program/bicycle-network-analysis.html >>> >>> https://bna.peopleforbikes.org/#/ >>> >>> The bike advocacy group I'm involved with here in Madison (WI) has been >>> using the map/data generated through the Bicycle Network Analysis process, >>> and we're working on a validation process to a) figure out where our local >>> knowledge disagrees with the calculated stress value and then b) figure out >>> whether that's an issue of the underlying OSM data (spoiler alert: in many >>> cases it is) or a different issue. Happy to answer any questions about this. >>> >>> Harald (formerly Montreal, and therefore still subscribed to talk-ca) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >>
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