Do-it-Yourself Open Data Toolkit is released here:
http://open.canada.ca/en/do-it-yourself-open-data-toolkit
Here is the license (Federal):
http://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada
Matthew Darwin
matt...@mdarwin.ca
http://www.mdarwin.ca
On 2018-01-28 03:17 PM, john whelan wrote:
The Ottawa building outlines were identified as a possibility by
Tracey at a meeting between Stats Can City of Ottawa and a few
people from OSM plus a few others by phone who had done something
similar.
Most of the enriching of OSM from Ottawa's Open Data came through
their portal such as the GTFS file. Martin and James have done most
of the work integrating what they could find.
Once we had the license lined up then I understand the building
outline file was supplied separately to the Open Data portal but
with the same licence. I think James would know if it came on a USB
stick or not.
The Stats Can building project has had a lot of interest from
municipalities. I think Kingston was very keen. Its value is the
mixture of Open Data and the enrichment that comes from the OSM side
to give the number of levels etc.
TB are supposed to have an Open data kit for municipalities real
soon now and that is supposed to include information about the TB
2.0 Open Data Licence that Ottawa is using.
Cheerio John
On 28 January 2018 at 14:42, Jonathan Brown <jonab...@gmail.com
<mailto:jonab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay, I know the Open Data folks and Open Government folks in
Ontario. It’s their job to connect to and support the data
stewards within government who are releasing data through the
Open Data Portal. The federal open government folks are holding
a meeting in Toronto this Monday where the provincial and city
folks are likely to be in attendance. I can raise this licensing
issue and how this is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen
science, something that they are keen on embracing. It would be
good to show them a working example. Has the BC2020i OSM data
been integrated into the Ottawa Open Data Portal?
Jonathan
*From: *john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, January 28, 2018 2:29 PM
*To: *Jonathan Brown <mailto:jonab...@gmail.com>
*Cc: *talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
*Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status
If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue. If you do map
from Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM. We tend
to find new mappers using iD are not very accurate.
If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then
it must be available under a licence that OpenStreetMap can
accept. Part of the problem is you can use OpenStreetMap for
anything.
The Canadian Federal Government noticed there were problems with
their Open Data licence for OpenStreetMap amongst others they
came up with version 2.0. Ottawa was the first municipality to
adopt the new license and it took about five years to get it
sorted out from start to finish.
I was involved in the original import and was under the
impression that since we were importing CANVEC data and that was
available under the 2.0 license that the municipal equivalent
license was acceptable. Some Stats Canada addresses had been
imported from the TB open data portal in Toronto and they were
under the same impression.
It became apparent that the CANVEC imports were not done under
the 2.0 license in OSM's eyes.
The TB 2.0 and the Ottawa Open Data license was referred to the
LWG for their opinion. Their opinion was they were acceptable.
However they wished to view any other Open Data licenses in
Canada before giving their benediction.
Some Open Data licenses say and if we don't like what you are
doing you must remove our data. This is an example on something
that OSM would find unacceptable.
Once the outlines are in place then other tags can be added.
Cheerio John
On 28 January 2018 at 13:50, Jonathan Brown <jonab...@gmail.com
<mailto:jonab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If we have a description of the scope of the work involved
in updating the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to
find some senior students who could be trained to take on
this task for locations in Ontario. It would be a very small
start, of course. Also, can someone explain to me the
licensing issue? How do datasets released under the open
government license not meet the legal requirements of the
OSM license?
Jonathan
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