Hi all, Damien's question appears to be about nodes like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/438843513, which has name=Berri-UQAM, operator=Société de transport de Montréal. short_name=STM seems inappropriate here, we could do operator:short_name=STM or something but it seems a bit much.
The nearby station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26233453 has name=Jean-Drapeau, network=STM, operator=Société de transport de Montréal which seems like an attempt as good as we might get. Commuter rail station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/548900549 has network=RTM, operator=Réseau de transport métropolitain which fits that scheme as well. Similar with a random bus line on North Shore https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3472432 Looking through map very casually I didn't see any operator=STM on the subway. I did see it on a bus line https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/270258 but changing it to network=STM and operator=Société de transport de Montréal seems like it'd be fine there IMO. To me "operator" looks a bit more little technical than the other tags, so to me it would be alright to use the longer more formal name. But I wouldn't edit-war anyone about it. I'd say run a query, see which is more common currently, ask people here (as you've done), then after a week change the minority tags to match. --Jarek On 11 July 2018 at 04:45, OSM Volunteer stevea <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Damien: > > I'm "meh, OK" with an operator=STM value, but I freely say I haven't checked > in completely with whomever you mean by "the minority." (I "haven't heard > of" any controversy one way or the other, STM or full-name. But that isn't > saying much on my part). I watch what's up with North American rail and it > seems that key-value pair is somewhere around the beginning of correct, at > least from my perspective, fwiw. Being right on it (there) you are way more > on it than I am. I'm sorta like a linguist here. > > However, OSM does have a short_name key and I'd be even better with > short_name=STM or alt_name=STM and operator=Société de transport de Montréal > if you want to get dotting-of-i and crossing-of-t about it. > > I mean, there are wiki pages on loc_name, nat_name, official_name, > short_name, alt_name and more, it's a slightly rich and deep topic in OSM and > in our wiki. I say STM is somewhere around alt_name or short_name. That is > one person's opinion. What happens, happens. I'm a guy typing words right > now, so, yeah. > > I also I notice when people get my name exactly right, as I appreciate that. > And look at that, both of us got "Société de transport de Montréal" exactly > right too (twice), making it a good candidate value for the name=* key. > > SteveA > California > >> On Jul 10, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Damien Riegel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> I'm new to this list so please forgive me if this topic has already been >> discussed. >> >> In Montréal, the public transportation provider is the "Societé de transport >> de Montréal", more commonly known as STM. Some (the minority) nodes use the >> full name, all the others use the acronym. it would be great to get rid of >> that discrepancy. >> >> If I had to give my opinion on the matter, I'd say "STM" is more appropriate >> as almost everything is branded under the "STM" name (for instance the >> website is https://stm.info, their Facebook page is called "STM - Mouvement >> collectif"), so that's the name people use. I think that also explains why >> "STM" is way more common as operator value than the full name. >> >> >> Regards, >> Damien >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
