My personal view is if we have a process that follows the rules
available then at least there is more chance they will be followed and
edits will not be reversed.
I might note the buildings in Regina have amazing similar outlines to
the ones made available via the Stats Canada file but I really wouldn't
like to say they had definitely been imported improperly.
One of the problems with the source=tag is it does get deleted from time
to time. Locally we have a mapper who if he adds any sort of detail to
a highway that has source=CANVEC on it removes the source tag on the
grounds that not all the information has come from CANVEC. It does
make auditing the map more difficult.
In Europe there is considerably more resistance to imports than in
Canada but strangely enough there is a proposal going through the import
mailing list currently for importing building outlines from government
sources in Belgium at the moment so hopefully our proposal will meet
less resistance than some others.
Cheerio John
OSM Volunteer stevea wrote on 2018-11-05 2:10 PM:
On Nov 5, 2018, at 7:29 AM, keith hartley <[email protected]> wrote:
I saw it was a great job. But you're correct, I have no documentation on how
they did it. Licence process, wiki ( I feel Steve already yelling at his
computer)
If you mean me, I'm saddened to hear that others think I "yell." Rather, my
motivation is to see that:
1) High quality (or VERY high quality) data are what get uploaded to OSM,
2) License terms are compatible with ODbL (I respect how difficult this can
be, especially with the limited bandwidth of OSM's LWG and the wide variety of
activities taking place in a very widely geographically dispersed country like
Canada) and
3) Communication about these efforts stay within a public realm (or "more public," as in "open source
based protocols" rather than "secret sauce walkie talkies" hobbled by license agreements, like
Facebook/Twitter/Instagram and Slack). Yes, primary among these are talk-ca and imports mailing lists, OSM's wiki
pages, especially explicit Import Plans and Tasking Manager for projects "approved" by the wider community
and actually underway.
Right now, with John Whelan's (and others') recent newer thrusts to provide momentum to buildings
getting entered (and/or improved) on Canada, I'm doing my best to "largely watch" (from
the sidelines) what is happening right now. I see no reason to "burn bridges" when I
don't mean to or need to do that.
And yes, I do know that "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." (No, that
isn't a slight at calling anybody "flies," rather a saying that means "positive encouragement
works much better than throwing rocks").
SteveA
California
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