Hi! Jaume Figueras schrieb: > You will, Barcelona is a great city.
Yes, that's what many people say. I'm really looking forward to it... :) > > I'm quite sure I will! I just hope finding your way through the Renfe > > system locally will be easier than in the Web. :-) > > Don't hope so. Renfe is the worst railway company in the world, well, at > least in Catalonia. Also, during august, Renfe service inside Barcelona > is under repair, they are changing a 40 year old electric system. The After fiddling around for about an hour with the timetable system which insisted on telling me that it's impossible to get from Sants to Pineda de Mar, I might agree. :) They actually have a nice PDF with helpful pictures for strangers, but why can't they add a link to it in the error message of the search result page telling you *why* there's no connection? > metro network is good, so avoid Renfe at all expenses. I see, thanks for the hint! Sounds familiar - many people say the same for Munich (take the underground, avoid the S trains). :-) > I agree with Francisco, I tried to use some Renfe information and all > material, including timetables, is copyrighted. Also FGC (Catalan train > system) and Metro information is copyrighted (and of course no public > domain) Well, only stating that something is copyrighted doesn't put it under a copyright if there's no creative act needed to create this work. The final visual appearance of an underground network map is for sure creative work and protected (being it explicitly stated or not). So if you use it as template for literally copying it (e.g. by using it as background picture while drawing your map), this is most likely copyright infringement. The sole information you take from it about connections between the stations shouldn't be protected by copyright law. If you read it and only use this knowledge while drawing (not copy'n'pasting the map!), there shall be no problem. Otherwise you wouldn't be allowed to create e.g. Wikipedia pages about the Barcelona Metro network listing the L1 stations! > So if you don't violate any copyright, fell free of mapping what you > like, that's OSM. > > Unfortunately, this information is copyrighted. It should'n be, but it > is. So please don't copy. As Open Source consultant and enthusiast, I'm quite sensitive about copyright stuff, so don't worry... :-) > Barcelona is not very well mapped, I agree. Now, I'm leading a project > with the Metropolitan Council of Barcelona (Barcelona + 20 > municipalities) to test the migration of all its data to OSM. So if the > project succeeds, I hope next year they will donate the data and we will > import this data to OSM main servers. Congrats, that would be really nice. Perhaps I can enjoy it on my next trip? :-) -- Gernot _______________________________________________ Talk-es mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
