Es cierto. No había caído en ese punto. > Según mi último recuerdo sobre este tema, es que la información de > catastro no sirve para sacar las direcciones correctas [1]. Desconozco > si se habrá solucionado. > > Saludos, Andrés. > > > [1] > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Catastro-duda-nombres-de-calles-td5777261. > html > 2014-12-15 3:59 GMT+01:00 Tom Lee <[email protected]>: > > Ha -- thank you, Agustín and Cruz. This is tremendously helpful. From > > the decree, it seems that cadastral data is free for use in general, > > which I think much include the INSPIRE data (if that is incorrect, > > please do let me know). Working with 7000+ GML files will not be a lot > > of fun, but I think I can use this to add the data to OpenAddresses. > > Thanks very much! > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 7:00 AM, <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > >> Envíe los mensajes para la lista Talk-es a > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> Para subscribirse o anular su subscripción a través de la WEB > >> > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es > >> > >> O por correo electrónico, enviando un mensaje con el texto "help" en > >> > >> el asunto (subject) o en el cuerpo a: > >> [email protected] > >> > >> Puede contactar con el responsable de la lista escribiendo a: > >> [email protected] > >> > >> Si responde a algún contenido de este mensaje, por favor, edite la > >> linea del asunto (subject) para que el texto sea mas especifico que: > >> "Re: Contents of Talk-es digest...". Además, por favor, incluya en la > >> respuesta sólo aquellas partes del mensaje a las que está > >> respondiendo. > >> > >> Asuntos del día: > >> 1. access to Spanish cadastre (Tom Lee) > >> 2. Re: access to Spanish cadastre (Agustín) > >> 3. Re: access to Spanish cadastre (Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez) > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:33:57 -0500 > >> From: Tom Lee <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre > >> > >> Message-ID: > >> < > >> > >> caeuyxdtnarsgx_nmp+40xbpekefhtmxheerxj4jq_brcu7s...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> I've recently been researching Spain's cadastral database, which > >> quickly > >> led to the work done on cat2osm and other projects by people on this > >> list. However, I find myself confused. I believe that links to bulk > >> downloads of the data exist on this page: > >> > >> https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv > >> > >> In fact, it is discussed in some detail on this OSM wiki page: > >> > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catastro > >> > >> But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509 > >> certificate. I > >> wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this requirement o a > >> non-Spanish > >> citizen? I realize that some elements of the database related to land > >> value > >> and ownership are sensitive, but I don't believe that these bulk > >> downloads include such data. The license terms associated with this > >> data seem to be quite open ( > >> > >> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110 > >> 323_tfs.pdf ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding. > >> > >> Any insights are much appreciated. > >> > >> Tom > >> ------------ próxima parte ------------ > >> Se ha borrado un adjunto en formato HTML... > >> URL: < > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/attachments/20141212/ > >> 766a93fd/attachment-0001.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:15:46 +0100 > >> From: Agustín <[email protected]> > >> To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap > >> > >> <[email protected]> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre > >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> > On 12 Dec 2014, at 19:33, Tom Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > I've recently been researching Spain's cadastral database, which > >> > >> quickly led to the work done on cat2osm and other projects by people > >> on > >> this list. However, I find myself confused. I believe that links to > >> bulk > >> > >> downloads of the data exist on this page: > >> > https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv < > >> > >> https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv> > >> > >> > In fact, it is discussed in some detail on this OSM wiki page: > >> > > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catast > >> > ro > >> > >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catastr > >> o> > >> > >> > But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509 > >> > >> certificate. I wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this > >> requirement o a non-Spanish citizen? I realize that some elements of > >> the database related to land value and ownership are sensitive, but I > >> don't believe that these bulk downloads include such data. The > >> license terms associated with this data seem to be quite open ( > >> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110 > >> 323_tfs.pdf < > >> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110 > >> 323_tfs.pdf> ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding. > >> Well this is the Spanish government, I guess. Requirements even if > >> there > >> are a non-sense, are quiet clear. > >> Para descargar los ficheros de catastro es necesario tener DNI-e < > >> http://www.dnielectronico.es/>, obtener el certificado e instalar los > >> drivers <http://www.dnielectronico.es/descargas/index.html> del lector > >> y > >> dni-e. También es posible sin DNI-e mediante un certificado > >> electrónico de usuario expedido por la FNMT < > >> http://www.cert.fnmt.es/index.php?cha=cit&sec=4> instalado en el > >> navegador. > >> What, in short, means that you’re out of luck is you aren’t either > >> Spanish or pay your taxes here. > >> By the way there is a project to import all this data to ism but we’re > >> negotiating with the import list. If you want some data in particular. > >> I’m sure that in this list there is a bunch of people willing to > >> provide them to you. You’re welcome to join their efforts to import > >> the cadastre data.>> > >> > Any insights are much appreciated. > >> > > >> > Tom > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk-es mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es > >> > >> ------------ próxima parte ------------ > >> Se ha borrado un adjunto en formato HTML... > >> URL: < > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/attachments/20141212/ > >> 583e9086/attachment-0001.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:28:20 +0100 > >> From: Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez <[email protected]> > >> To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap > >> > >> <[email protected]> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre > >> Message-ID: <2192236.Khe1bBf77o@artemisa> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> > >> You need a valid ID electronic card (DNI-e) to download ANY data from > >> the cadestre > >> database. Moreover, you have to fill a form where you have to provide > >> your localizacion, > >> work and the amount of € that the use of that particular dataset have > >> save in the > >> project (when applicable). Even more, there are data that they have, > >> but > >> they not provide > >> in any case. Those are the rules set by the cadestre. > >> > >> If you ask me why they set that rules: I DON'T KNOW AND I WOULD RATHER > >> PREFER > >> NOT TO ASK ;) (it a thing that could ONLY be worse). > >> > >> On the other hand, the cadestre information of Spain are accessible > >> now > >> thorough > >> this portal: > >> > >> > >> http://blog-idee.blogspot.com.es/2014/03/actualizacion-de-los-datos-de > >> -descarga.html > >> > >> fulfilling the INSPIRE directive. I have not tested myself, but seems > >> that the data > >> format its different and cannot be used with cat2osm2 [1]. In any > >> case, > >> please note > >> that cat2osm is DEPRECATED and should not be used for anything. > >> > >> In any case, good luck using the cadestre data ;) > >> cruz. > >> > >> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm2 > >> > >> > But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509 > >> > >> certificate. I > >> > >> > wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this requirement o a > >> > >> non-Spanish > >> > >> > citizen? I realize that some elements of the database related to > >> > land > >> > >> value > >> > >> > and ownership are sensitive, but I don't believe that these bulk > >> > >> downloads > >> > >> > include such data. The license terms associated with this data seem > >> > to > >> > >> be > >> > >> > quite open ( > >> > >> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110 > >> 323_tfs.pdf>> > >> > ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding. > >> > >> -- > >> Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández > >> Email: [email protected] > >> > >> DeustoTech Energy > >> Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 > >> Avda. Universidades, 24 > >> 48007 Bilbao, Spain > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Pié de página del digest > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-es mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Fin de Resumen de Talk-es, Vol 95, Envío 5 > >> ******************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-es mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
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