Any news on this?
My subscription got deactivated again yesterday evening:
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 23:57:15
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, Francois Gouget wrote:
>
> Regularly users on the talk-fr mailing list get kicked off. It's my
> third time this month! Whenever it happens it looks like multiple users
> across multiple ISPs get kicked off at the same time.
>
> The notification message mentions "excessive bounces" without specifying
> how many bounces occurred or providing any information that would help
> diagnose the reason for the bounces. Most users rely on their ISP email
> servers and thus cannot look at the server logs either.
>
> Here's the relevant extract of this message (without the link and
> password):
>
> ----
> Votre abonnement à la liste Talk-fr a été désactivé suite à due to
> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 21-Dec-2019. Vous ne recevrez plus de messages en provenance de cette
> liste tant que vous n'aurez pas ré-activé votre abonnement. Vous
> recevrez encore 3 rappels comme celui-ci avant que votre abonnement ne
> soit supprimé.
>
> Pour ré-activer votre abonnement, vous pouvez répondre simplement à ce
> message (en laissant la ligne Subject: --Objet-- du message intact) ou
> vous rendre à la page de confirmation à l'adresse :
>
> ---
>
>
> Debian also has to deal with bounces on their mailing lists and there
> are two things that they do which improve the situation greatly:
>
> 1. The notification email contains a link to the last bounce
> including all the email headers (see attachment).
> - This helps get a sense of why the bounce occurred.
> - Most of the time it's a spam false positive. Note that most users
> cannot prevent their ISPs from doing at least some level of spam
> filtering.
> - Users can however report false positives to their ISPs, but only if
> they can provide the full email headers of the message that
> bounced. The link in the notification message provides that
> information and thus there is at least a chance that ISPs can
> improve.
> - The link remains valid for about a week. This way the Debian
> servers don't end with a glut of bounced emails.
>
> 2. A user gets kicked out only if more than 80% of the emails got
> bounced over a period of 7 days. Notification emails get sent at a
> much lower threshold (I presume weekly in the presence of bounces).
> This still lets Debian purge old accounts from their mailing lists
> without randomly kicking users out.
>
>
> So it would be great if OSM could implement a similar policy on Talk-fr
> (and the other mailing lists at your discretion).
>
>
>
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