On 7 Aug 2009, at 08:02, Shaun McDonald wrote:

>
> On 7 Aug 2009, at 00:06, Mark Williams wrote:
>
>> Peter Miller wrote:
>>> This is the A13 and it in the  ncn13 relation which I think is wrong
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23406798
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Anyone fancy following it up?
>>>
>>
>> Actually no, the NCN13 route _IS_ down the A13! Bizarre but true..
>>
>> It skips off for the flyover at Gallows Corner in Romford & maybe  
>> one or
>> two other side jaunts, but basically you're on the A13 from quite  
>> well
>> into London (East Ham or so) until Basildon, there are occasional red
>> stickers to prove it & a marked cycle lane on the A13, complete with
>> 3-lane dual carriageways & national speed limits.
>>
>> You get crossing places marked at the slip roads, not usually with  
>> NCN
>> stickers just white paint.
>>
>> I have seen the occasional cyclist mad enough to use it too!
>>
>> I'm not absolutely certain of the routing onto the A13 at the  
>> Basildon
>> end, as it just might go down Southend Road Corringham into  
>> Stanford, at
>> least one way, but I think it doesn't. It does cross over the A13 to
>> Southend road on a bridge, One Tree Hill, but then could back-track  
>> to
>> 8-Bells roundabout, or do the Southend Road route, the signs peter  
>> out
>> just where they might be useful.
>>
>> I wondered about this before I tagged it but I double-checked it,
>> because it seemed so daft, and the signs, as they say, were there.
>>
>
> I have cycled sections of the NCN13 from about Dagenham Dock into  
> London. There is a cycle path on the side of the road (often  
> segregated by a small bump kerb and the path is on both sides of the  
> 2-4 lanes in each direction) and so in that way it is quite safe.  
> Not cycled further west though. Where I have the data I have been  
> trying to get the parallel cycle path added to OSM as whoever added  
> the ncn 13 to begin with just added it to the trunk road's main  
> carriage way and even I really wouldn't want to cycle along the A13  
> for any great distance! Also the way that you join from side roads  
> can be a little different in many places.

The information on Sustrans mapping and OSM mapping is wildly  
different for NCN13. I am of course not proposing that we use Sustrans  
mapping information as a source, but as a 3rd party check it seems to  
through up some significant questions about trunk road sections.

Regards,


Peter


>
> Unfortunately I don't have any photos to hand of that section.
>
> Shaun
>


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