Peter Miller wrote: > > On 7 Aug 2009, at 08:02, Shaun McDonald wrote: > >> >> On 7 Aug 2009, at 00:06, Mark Williams wrote: >> >>> Peter Miller wrote: >>>> This is the A13 and it in the ncn13 relation which I think is wrong >>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23406798 >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? Anyone fancy following it up? >>>> >>> >>> Actually no, the NCN13 route _IS_ down the A13! Bizarre but true.. >>> >>> It skips off for the flyover at Gallows Corner in Romford & maybe one or >>> two other side jaunts, but basically you're on the A13 from quite well >>> into London (East Ham or so) until Basildon, there are occasional red >>> stickers to prove it & a marked cycle lane on the A13, complete with >>> 3-lane dual carriageways & national speed limits. >>> >>> You get crossing places marked at the slip roads, not usually with NCN >>> stickers just white paint. >>> >>> I have seen the occasional cyclist mad enough to use it too! >>> >>> I'm not absolutely certain of the routing onto the A13 at the Basildon >>> end, as it just might go down Southend Road Corringham into Stanford, at >>> least one way, but I think it doesn't. It does cross over the A13 to >>> Southend road on a bridge, One Tree Hill, but then could back-track to >>> 8-Bells roundabout, or do the Southend Road route, the signs peter out >>> just where they might be useful. >>> >>> I wondered about this before I tagged it but I double-checked it, >>> because it seemed so daft, and the signs, as they say, were there. >>> >> >> I have cycled sections of the NCN13 from about Dagenham Dock into >> London. There is a cycle path on the side of the road (often >> segregated by a small bump kerb and the path is on both sides of the >> 2-4 lanes in each direction) and so in that way it is quite safe. Not >> cycled further west though. Where I have the data I have been trying >> to get the parallel cycle path added to OSM as whoever added the ncn >> 13 to begin with just added it to the trunk road's main carriage way >> and even I really wouldn't want to cycle along the A13 for any great >> distance! Also the way that you join from side roads can be a little >> different in many places. > > The information on Sustrans mapping and OSM mapping is wildly different > for NCN13. I am of course not proposing that we use Sustrans mapping > information as a source, but as a 3rd party check it seems to through up > some significant questions about trunk road sections. >
It's worth a check, I only found a few signs & miles of cycle lane. In particular I think it was Gallows Corner with a sign where the flyover has a no-cycling sign & there was a notice - they've just done a lot of work on that though. It is however the case that most* of the A13 in Essex has a cycle lane clearly marked & yes, you'd be nuts, and yes, the council did it & they don't cycle. More recently the Thurrock council have added a cycle path along the old A13 in Grays which would make a lot more sense to use, I did wonder about tagging it that way but there is no NCN signage & it felt very unilateral so I didn't. Mark * All the bit's I've looked at.. _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
