On 1 Jun 2010, at 15:50, Andy Allan wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Chris Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On a rainy afternoon I took a look at your overlay and I think it is
>> potentially very useful. The main issue I guess is this new tag. I  
>> think
>> "not:*" is imaginative, but it rankles with me somehow. How about  
>> just
>> putting source:name=survey on roads that contradict OS Locator to  
>> show
>> they have been checked on the ground.
>
> All the roads I've mapped have been from survey, but what of those
> ham-fisted moments in front of the computer?
>
> I think positively identifying what you disagree with is better than
> side-effects of other statements. After all, source:name=survey
> doesn't necessarily mean that you've checked the disagreement between
> OS and OSM and confirmed that OSM is correct.

Agreed, the 'not' would only be used when one is sure of the right  
answer based on some clear evidence and where there is a reasonably  
chance that someone might change it to an incorrect value.

Possibly one could stretch the syntax a little more and put structure  
into the note tag as well. For example:

name=Rosehill Road
not:name=Rose Hill Road
not:name:note=There are streetsigns on 'Rosehill Road' show different  
versions at each end, however I checked with the council and they say  
that the formal title is indeed Rosehill Road however they do not  
intend to change the other sign for the time being.

Or....

Ref=A999
not:ref=998
not:ref:note=This used to be called the A998 but is now the A999 -  
some maps and signs still show A998 but the designation changed on the  
xx/xx/2010

Incidentally, with reference to Rosehill Road in Ipswich the signs do  
indeed vary at each end of the street - I haven't checked with the  
council though. I believe the OS choose the one with least spaces  
unless they get other guidance.

Here is another example where OS Streetview and Google/TeleAtlas are  
not the same as the sign and I have used the proposed 'not:name:note'  
format for the note field. In this case however OS Locator hasn't  
complained so I think it is an example of where OS Streetview and OS  
Locator are not telling the same story.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4211155




Regards,



Peter



>
> Cheers,
> Andy


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