On 06/04/2011 17:46, Jason Cunningham wrote:
Hi all,

Recently was made aware of Findmaps new free service that overlays a lot of recently released UK data over maps.
http://free.findmaps.co.uk/

The available background maps are 'google maps' 'osm mapnik' and OS.
You then chose to see several different datasets sourced, for example, from Natural England and Ordnance Survey.
You can add (draw) you own basic shapes/lines/arrows, and print out a pdf.
Overall an excellent service

But it raises three issues.
1. The OSM map is called the "Urban Detail". Since Google Map gets called Google Map it would of been nice to see OSM referred to as OSM. But I guess the whole point of OSM is to provide maps (data) with a minimum of use restrictions.

2. The use of OS data in Google Maps. I though this wasn't allowed. Last time I looked at this there was a problem with googles terms of use, which OS were not happy with. I remember thinking OS were in the right, and remember a response from OS which suggested that other mapping sites could be used. Since findmaps is clearly using OS data with with Google maps it suggests the situation has changed. Does anybody have info on the current state of play.

3. The use of Natural England data. Seems Natural England have an even more complex set of terms and conditions for their data sets [link <http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/default.aspx>]. I therefore find it hard to believe this data can be used in google maps. Has there been any discussion about using Natural Englands data in OSM because it does provide some very useful info (eg national trails)

Cheers,

Jason


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I think the Google/OS issue has been partially resolved. However I share your other concerns.

OSM does not appear to properly described (or attributed). Richard Fairhurst pointed these issues out on talk-legal some time ago, and has subsequently alluded to many other non-attributed uses of OSM. I'm hoping he might write something up on it.

Data from Natural England and English Heritage appear to be being used when as far as I know they have restrictive licenses. It may be that these licenses are old and have been replaced by the standard opendata.gov.uk licenses, but as I have found discovering whether this is the case can be quite long winded. I did raise the issue of the status of Natural England data on the National Archives site a few months ago, but have not had any email reply.

Jerry
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