>-----Original Message----- >From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 10 June 2011 3:39 PM >To: SteveC >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot > >Hi, > >SteveC wrote: >> Or as close to it as possible, yes. I don't care what the result is, >> it's just too fashionable to automatically believe the imports are bad >> thing. > >Funny that you should use the word "fashionable", as if to discount those who >say it as merely following a fashion instead of possibly having a mind of their >own. > >If I remember correctly, it used to be the other way round; when TIGER was >imported, everyone went aaah and oooh - myself included -, and even when >AND became available there were very few, if any, complaints. It is only in the >recent past that a more critical view of imports has established itself in the >community. One should ask: What has happened (or has not happened) in >the mean time? - That would perhaps go some way to explain the "fashion". > >I have a feeling that "no imports" is fashionable in the same way as "no >smoking". It's a fairly recent development, that's true, but it is based on >experience and observation; it's not just a fad. And it is unlikely to turn around >again any time soon.
+1 My feeling is that we did most of the early (and perhaps current) imports fairly blindly. TIGER needed two attempts and we still ended up with a bag of marbles despite much valuable work by Dave Hansen and others. The AND data was discussed and pulled apart by the NL community for quite a while but still it raised some questions afterwards. All this should be telling us something thats actually quite obvious. Other peoples data is exactly that, other peoples data. If we want it in OSM then as long as we accept it doesn't fit our expectations (and most of it never will) then perhaps we can live it (or not). I recall when AND data was imported we also had some data from them for China, which when a bit of checking was done by someone with some knowledge of reality on the ground turned out to be more fiction and fantasy than useful geographical information. Hence we ignored it. It's always going to be a difficult call to agree that an import is good or bad for OSM, even if many folks spend many hours working the mapping of tags etc etc. And it's not so easy to do anything about a poor import once it's in OSM. So in reality we are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't. Cheers Andy > >Bye >Frederik > >-- >Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > >_______________________________________________ >Talk-GB mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
