Hi Graham, Sorry, I got a bit over excited and subscribed to tons of OSM mailing lists and so totally missed your awesome reply :-(
Sorry if I wasn't clear - I've successfully got Mapnik installed (did it a week or three ago and it was pretty painless as far as I recall), so am particularly after a sample config file to start from, particularly one with hill contours / gradients / whatever-they-are-really-called-outside-the-confines-of-my-head. Altho' having said that the package that Parveen Arora is putting together looks pretty awesome, so maybe I should hold out for that, even tho' it looks more targeted for Debian than OS X - I guess if push comes to shove I could install Debian in VMware, which I already have on my laptop. By the way townguide looks rather amazing, so adding that to my (rather long) list of things to check out :-) Thanks for the offer of helping generate the configuration file, not sure of the best way to do that tho' as I want something I can start with and hack around with and iterate a lot until it's "right". The primary thing I want is pubs and post boxes available when zoomed out (ideally the same zoom range as footpaths show up on), and if possible the mountain gradients/contours - I've seen a couple of maps "in the wild" that use these, but not sure how possible/straightforward it is for a Mapnik newbie such as myself. Cheers, Adam On 10 Jun 2011, at 10:46, Graham Jones wrote: > Adam (changed the title of the thread to keep this one separate), > The simplest way to do it is to make overlays that are transparent and you > can view over another set of tiles. > I have done a few before now - there is one visible at http://maps3.org.uk, > which highlights historic things over the normal mapnik rendering. > I still have the idea to set up something to make the learning curve easier, > because I appreciate that setting up mapnik and all its dependencies is quite > daunting - there is something on my osm user page about it (grahamjones). > > If you want to do it yourself, there are a few different sets of instructions > - the osm wiki 'mapnik' page is a good start. Note that linux is much easier > than Windows (or at least there are better instructions!). > > I have a set of instructions that work for me at > http://code.google.com/p/townguide/wiki/InstallationInstructions. (there > may be a minor issue with postgresql authentication that I need to fix). > > Parveen Aurora is currently working on making a simple package that will > install and configure everything for you for his Google Summer of Code > project, but you will have to give him a few weeks to get something ready for > testing (https://github.com/ParveenArora/MeraMap). > > If you would like to work out what you would like to render (ie which tag > combinations), how you would like them drawn (line colour and width, icon > image etc.), I can help you turn that into a mapnik configuration file and > generate the map for you on my computer. I think it is better to spend > time thinking about the rendering than having to worry about database > configuration nuts and bolts. > > Regards > > > Graham. > > Regards > > > Graham. > > On 10 June 2011 10:27, Adam Hoyle <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry in advance - after writing this I've realised I'm possibly heading off > on a tangent (I do that). > > Speaking of the awesomeness of Cycle Map and how that encourages people - I > really want an openwalkingtothepubmap, which would basically be a clone of > the gorgeous cycle map, but with the coloured cycle routes removed in favour > of coloured paths and also pubs visible when quite zoomed out (and prolly > post boxes too, but that is probably particularly niche). > > I'm starting to realise that I might need to roll up my sleeves and do this > myself. > > Every now and then I try to install Mapnik on my Mac, and mostly fail, but I > tried t'other day and it worked, so I'm wondering where the various styles > that are used on OSM are kept (or even if they are actually available for > derivative use) - I'm most keen on cyclemap or something that has gradients, > cos as a walker I'm quite interested in whether I am about to walk over a > massive hill or not. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > All the best, > > Adam > > On 10 Jun 2011, at 09:35, Bob Kerr wrote: > >> I agree with Andy about increasing the number of mappers is essential. With >> Cycle map he has increased the interest in the cycling communities. Getting >> interest and publicity is very difficult. I can see many other communities >> that we could encourage to start helping us, from NHS to golfers but we have >> no organised way of doing this at the moment. Using a bot to replace large >> sections of data in the UK is going to be counterproductive or destructive, >> especially as the UK is now 80% (road name)complete. However restricting a >> bot by area to the size of small villages may help. I believe we can both >> encourage people to join us and use the a bot on small areas at the same >> time. >> >> Cheers >> >> bob >> >> >> From: Andy Allan <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011, 16:45 >> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > In order to get a better level of completeness in the UK what we need are >> > more mappers. >> >> Absolutely. >> >> Everything we do should be focussed on helping get more mappers, or >> helping the mappers we have get their jobs done more easily. >> Everything that is a direct substitute for having more mappers is, at >> best, a distraction from (what I see as) the desired goal. If we have >> mappers, and lots of them, then - as we've now demonstrated - we can >> get a glorious dataset. >> >> Note that not everyone here shares the same goals - some people are >> focussed on the data, others on the community. It might be worth >> examining why we (collectively) have a tendency to discuss the data >> all the time and I see very few discussions on community matters. >> >> I find in most conversations, if the answer is "because we don't have >> enough mappers yet" then the solution is not to bypass them with some >> form of automation but to get more of them. Unfortunately to most >> OSMers, community building seems hard (which it is), and writing bots >> or doing imports seems easy (which it's not). >> >> > A bot is putting short-term gain ahead of our long-term interests. >> >> Indeed. What's more, all the effort that goes into writing bots, >> discussing them, justifying them etc is time that hasn't gone into the >> primary goal of recruiting and helping more people to OSM. >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > > -- > Graham Jones > Hartlepool, UK. >
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