That's great news. I'm interested in your correspondence, which is clearly working well. Also wanted to add a link to the current Definitive Statements of Public Rights of Way status updates, here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_local_councils Regards Peter On 21 June 2012 23:55, Robert Whittaker (OSM) < [email protected]> wrote: > I'm pleased to be able to report that three councils have agreed to > let us use their Definitive Statements of Public Rights of Way under > the UK Open Government License (OGL). (I'll be posting the emails I > sent to the councils and some other notes about the correspondence I > had with them in a separate message for anyone who's interested.) The > councils who've told me we can use their Definitive Statements under > the OGL are: > > * Hertfordshire > * Oxfordshire > * Worcestershire > > The first two of these have the statements online in a convenient form > [1], [2]. Worcestershire does not, but the text of each right of way > is available from a link in the popup by clicking on the interactive > map [3]. Accessing them in this way, it will be hard to avoid > inadvertently making use of the additional information about the route > of each way from the map. So I've obtained a list of all the image > files, which I'm planning to use to allow direct access to the > statements for each parish. Watch this space for more details, though > first I have to chase up a few of the files that seem to be missing. > > The OGL requires attribution, so I've added details of these three > counties to the appropriate wiki page [4]. (Unfortunately though, this > page isn't obviously linked from the main OSM map or official > copyright/license page [5] so I'm not convinced that attribution > statements on [4] completely fulfil our obligations at the moment. > Yes, we've provided attribution, but it's not somewhere that we could > reasonably expect users to find it. I've been in touch with LWG about > this, and fixing things is on their to do list -- though it seem from > their minutes that this has been the case since September 2011. Does > anyone know who is able to edit the text on [5]?) > > I'm hopeful that we'll be able to make use of the statements to verify > the designation of already mapped ways, and add the appropriate > designation tag where it's missing. In most cases, the description > probably won't be enough to be able to map a way without a survey. > However in conjunction with aerial imagery and maybe a bit of local > knowledge, it may be possible to do so for some routes. But the > statements will certainly be helpful in any effort of complete the > mapping of public rights of way by identifying missing routes in need > of a survey. > > To help with matching routes up and checking off what has been found, > it will be useful to tag the ways with the Council's reference number, > using our ref=* key. Doing so has been discussed on this list before > [6]. (Though following some more recent discussion [7] we may be > heading towards using prow:ref=* instead to avoid a clash with other > uses of ref on the same ways.) In the thread at [6] it's been observed > that different councils use different path numbering schemes, so we'll > probably be unable to use a common scheme across the whole country. > Looking at the numbering scheme used by the three councils above, I'd > suggest the following ref formats: > > * Hertfordshire: "[Parish] [0Num]" > * Oxfordshire: "[Pn]/[Num]" > * Worcestershire: "[PC]-[0Num]" > > where [Parish] is the full parish name (in Title case), [Pn] is a > numerical parish code, [PC] is a two letter parish code (with > upper-case letters), [Num] is the numerical path number without > leading zeros, and [0Num] is the numerical path number with leading > zeros. > > (Note that Worcestershire has re-numbered all their paths, giving each > segment between path junctions a distinct number within the parish. > The definitive statements still use the old numbers in the route > descriptions, and it might not be possible to tell which segment of > each route has which new number. It it probably a good idea to store > the original reference numbers in OSM too, eg with old_ref="[Parish] > [Num]" top make using the definitive statements easier.) > > Finally, when tagging ways with designation=* and/or ref=* based on > the definitive statements, I think it would be useful to indicate the > source. I'd suggest using source:designation=definitive_statement > and/or source:ref=definitive_statement as appropriate. > > Best wishes, > > Robert. > > [1] > http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/envplan/countryside/walkingandriding/row/defmap/defstate/ > [2] > http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/content/definitive-map-and-statement-online > [3] http://gis.worcestershire.gov.uk/website/Countryside/ > [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom > [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright > [6] Thread starts at > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-May/013314.html > [7] Thread starts at > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-June/013411.html > > -- > Robert Whittaker > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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