An internet search for "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass" gives a good
number of results from official sources, including parliament and
highways.gov.uk

The A650 Bingley Bypass/throughpass near me was recently given a name
"Sir Fred Hoyle Way" and name signs at all the slip roads, so I added
this to OSM. I take it there are no name signs for Fos­ton Hat­ton
Hilton Bypass?

Colin in Bingley

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" 
To:"John Baker" , 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:26:44 +0000
Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for
example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a
suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming
roads not the DfT.

 Cheers Chris

John Baker  wrote: I had a response.

Apparently these are "official" Department of Transport road names.

Now I don't know as this differs to what is on the ground what should
be done about this.

"Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass", etc  don't as far I I know appear
on the ground however I think the some record should appear in OSM. I
am worried about the trend in this case of placing them as the "name"
of the road as what reference point would people use for these.

Any thoughts?

John

-------------------------
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:48:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

The user looks like a troll. None of his/her/bot changesets have any
comments. And they bounce all over the world.

I think he deleted the original roads on the 21 jan 2013 as the
history in OSM says they are new roads. 

Can someone look at reverting them all.

I sent the user this PM.

"What are you doing with your edits here?:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14728720 [1]
 You appear to have deleted major roads A50 and replaced them with
strange names. Where are you getting your information.
 Your changesets have no notes in them explaining what you have done.
 Can you explain what you are doing before we revert the changes and
look at getting you banned.
 Cheers,
 John"

> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)
> 
> Recently various sections along the A50 between Derby and Stoke have

> grown names, for example here:
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/202232245/history
> 
> I've driven along that section of road many times, and I don't
believe 
> I've seen a name on any of the new sections.
> 
> According to Musical Chairs, there are genuinely no names:
> 
>
http://ris.dev.openstreetmap.org/oslmusicalchairs/map?zoom=15&lat=52.87983&lon=-1.66551&layers=B0TT&view_mode=pseudorandom
> 
> Some similar roads in Derbyshire do have official names, such as the
A52 
> "Brian Clough Way" between Derby and Nottingham, or well-used
unoffical 
> ones such as the A61 which locals regularly used to refer to as just
the 
> "Dronfield Bypass", but I've never heard of ones for the A50 being
used.
> 
> I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for, but
thought 
> that I'd better check to make sure that I'm not missing anything 
> obvious. Do these names have any basis in reality? "Fos­ton
Hat­ton 
> Hilton Bypass**" sounds like something that might have been written
on a 
> planning application, but I've never seen it used anywhere.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> ** Some of the given names (such as "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton
Bypass") are 
> further complicated by having soft hyphens (hex AD) inserted between

> syllables, which results in the rendering of hyphens in some places
but 
> not others.
> 
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